I still think it's better to start from the pits ewith6a brand new engine, TC, MGUs etc
Anyway.
Seldom does information like that come out without there being some basis to it.Schippke wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 15:24Sounds completely baseless; Not sure what Tombazis would have to gain by doing that, and if it was the case, then surely all the teams would need to follow the same technical directive.jumpingfish wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 11:53https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... zis-5.7529
Sounds like a conspiracy theory from Turrini
In short, regardless whether there is some truth to it or not, that alone would not be the reason why the Power Unit all of a sudden has become unreliable... It had been discussed and speculated that there were reliability concerns prior to the season beginning which seem to be showing now as the Power Units gain mileage.
Also, Ferrari started the season running the units in a more conservative state before upping the power more and power... once they thought reliability concerns were at ease. Seems it was a bit too good to be true at the time...
They ARE starting with the brand new engine, which is PU n.3. It's just that the turbo component is now n.4 in the pool and it has to be a penalty. Brace for another penalty later in the season when they switch to unit n.4 - that's gonna be the back of the grid.
What information has come out? There is no pointer to, or quote of, any TD or clarification by the FIA.DR30 wrote:Seldom does information like that come out without there being some basis to it.Schippke wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 15:24Sounds completely baseless; Not sure what Tombazis would have to gain by doing that, and if it was the case, then surely all the teams would need to follow the same technical directive.jumpingfish wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 11:53https://www.quotidiano.net/blog/turrini ... zis-5.7529
Sounds like a conspiracy theory from Turrini
In short, regardless whether there is some truth to it or not, that alone would not be the reason why the Power Unit all of a sudden has become unreliable... It had been discussed and speculated that there were reliability concerns prior to the season beginning which seem to be showing now as the Power Units gain mileage.
Also, Ferrari started the season running the units in a more conservative state before upping the power more and power... once they thought reliability concerns were at ease. Seems it was a bit too good to be true at the time...
It also 100% explains why it has "become" unreliable. If they are trying to keep up with Honda and now are at the full 10% ethanol content they have to make up the resultant 3% power reduction by pushing the power units harder than they can handle reliably.
With Sainz there always is a new excuse unfortunately. Leclerc is a generational talent and there is no shame in being beaten by him, but all drivers need to believe that they can win. Consequently we hear reasons for the deficit other than pure pace every weekend post-raceGillian wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 10:30Will be interesting to see how Leclerc is going to handle himself this weekend. He's been spectacular in qualifying and has blown Sainz away in the races (which I didn't expect). Even if he starts a few places behind Sainz due to penalties, I would not be surprised if he will finish ahead. I'm curious to see how Sainz, Leclerc and the team will handle that. As I see it the difference between Leclerc - Sainz is about the same as Verstappen - Perez. Perez though seems to realize when he's outmatched on pace, where Sainz doesn't...
That's exactly what I'm talking about yes.organic wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 10:31With Sainz there always is a new excuse unfortunately. Leclerc is a generational talent and there is no shame in being beaten by him, but all drivers need to believe that they can win. Consequently we hear reasons for the deficit other than pure pace every weekend post-raceGillian wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 10:30Will be interesting to see how Leclerc is going to handle himself this weekend. He's been spectacular in qualifying and has blown Sainz away in the races (which I didn't expect). Even if he starts a few places behind Sainz due to penalties, I would not be surprised if he will finish ahead. I'm curious to see how Sainz, Leclerc and the team will handle that. As I see it the difference between Leclerc - Sainz is about the same as Verstappen - Perez. Perez though seems to realize when he's outmatched on pace, where Sainz doesn't...
leclerc is not a generational talent.organic wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 10:31With Sainz there always is a new excuse unfortunately. Leclerc is a generational talent and there is no shame in being beaten by him, but all drivers need to believe that they can win. Consequently we hear reasons for the deficit other than pure pace every weekend post-raceGillian wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 10:30Will be interesting to see how Leclerc is going to handle himself this weekend. He's been spectacular in qualifying and has blown Sainz away in the races (which I didn't expect). Even if he starts a few places behind Sainz due to penalties, I would not be surprised if he will finish ahead. I'm curious to see how Sainz, Leclerc and the team will handle that. As I see it the difference between Leclerc - Sainz is about the same as Verstappen - Perez. Perez though seems to realize when he's outmatched on pace, where Sainz doesn't...
Because Sainz still hasn't got a pole and a win. He is extremely selfish, as every other F1 driver, so I am sure he trully believes that he is on par with the rest of the guys, although he is not. He probably works harder than the rest, but he misses that extra tenth.Gillian wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 10:30Will be interesting to see how Leclerc is going to handle himself this weekend. He's been spectacular in qualifying and has blown Sainz away in the races (which I didn't expect). Even if he starts a few places behind Sainz due to penalties, I would not be surprised if he will finish ahead. I'm curious to see how Sainz, Leclerc and the team will handle that. As I see it the difference between Leclerc - Sainz is about the same as Verstappen - Perez. Perez though seems to realize when he's outmatched on pace, where Sainz doesn't...
I hope that's not directed at me but if it was then I apologize for any disrespect.dialtone wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 13:44Some people here talk about the Ferrari drivers as if they were on personal terms with them. Judging whether they are talented or not, selfish or not…
How do you people do this? Would you enjoy your co-workers, perhaps those that barely know you, put in a bad word about you? How about instead of your co-workers you get the word from someone that was just visiting the office that day and saw just a presentation from you?
The disrespect some of you show paired with such little knowledge about them...
Nah wasn't referring to you. I don't think it's bad to talk about someone's performance over the year and race by race, but when stuff gets more personal it seems excessive to me.Gillian wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 13:51I hope that's not directed at me but if it was then I apologize for any disrespect.dialtone wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 13:44Some people here talk about the Ferrari drivers as if they were on personal terms with them. Judging whether they are talented or not, selfish or not…
How do you people do this? Would you enjoy your co-workers, perhaps those that barely know you, put in a bad word about you? How about instead of your co-workers you get the word from someone that was just visiting the office that day and saw just a presentation from you?
The disrespect some of you show paired with such little knowledge about them...
I really don't know either. But that's sports fans in general.dialtone wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 13:44Some people here talk about the Ferrari drivers as if they were on personal terms with them. Judging whether they are talented or not, selfish or not…
How do you people do this? Would you enjoy your co-workers, perhaps those that barely know you, put in a bad word about you? How about instead of your co-workers you get the word from someone that was just visiting the office that day and saw just a presentation from you?
The disrespect some of you show paired with such little knowledge about them...