Ferrari 150° Italia

[marcush.]

[raymondu999]

Would you not need LESS cooling at a power circuit? For one thing it cuts on drag, and for another, when you're traveling at 330km/h you have more air than 300km/h anyways

[beelsebob]

Would you not need LESS cooling at a power circuit? For one thing it cuts on drag, and for another, when you're traveling at 330km/h you have more air than 300km/h anyways

Not sure – on the other hand, you have a engine that's working much harder, more friction in the transmission, KERS being charged and discharged in big dollops.

[Gilles 27]

Is it an effect of parallax, or is Alonso running more wing?

Look at the lill front Winglets they are completely different Frontwings, Massa runs the new Front Wing and of course they runs different wing angle, look how much spray has Alonso in the picture.

[rdr]

when Hell freezes over...





P.S.
"Also no three element wing which was being suggested by many."(c)

[Hush]

So what do we think about Ferrari reverting to the pre-Silverstone suspension at Spa which could partly explain their troubles on the medium tyre?

I also think the relatively low downforce nature of the track had a say in those troubles as well.

It is sad to see a fast car go balls up when on the primes. You can have the best aero but not being able to generate adequate temperature in the tyres is a serious disadvantage.

[raymondu999]

They reverted to pre-Silverstone suspension? If they did it could be a cause; though with such a long lap I didn't think they'd have much trouble building up tyre temps; especially with long/big lateral loadings on the fronts in all 3 sectors

[Hush]

They reverted to pre-Silverstone suspension? If they did it could be a cause; though with such a long lap I didn't think they'd have much trouble building up tyre temps; especially with long/big lateral loadings on the fronts in all 3 sectors

Yes, they did revert to the previous version of the suspension but I don't think it is the only reason. I am sure the low downforce nature of the track as well as the cold track temperature played a part.

[raymondu999]

IIRC Silverstone was also very cold; but yes there was no downforce to help load/heat the tyres

[dren]

Did Massa have a more wet set-up? He was way off compared to Alonso. Might help explain the gap in qualifying also.

[Hush]

IIRC Silverstone was also very cold; but yes there was no downforce to help load/heat the tyres

Yes, Silverstone was cool but there was downforce to, as you say, load the tyres as well as the very fast changes of direction through Maggots, Becketts and Chapel coupled with the other fast corners as well.

Now that I have a look at it, when comparing Alonso's pace to Vettel's on the primes he only lost about 5 seconds from the time he pit to the end of the race. The problem was that Webber was very special on the primes and both Vettel and Button got lucky with the safety car in that it gave them a free pit stop while at the same time screwing Alonso's strategy as by the time the safety car came in, Alonso's tyres had done 8 laps already as opposed to Vettel's 3 (at snail pace).

[Gerhard Berger]

Did Massa have a more wet set-up? He was way off compared to Alonso. Might help explain the gap in qualifying also.

He was slower in the speed traps...

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

NobleF1 Jon Noble

The FIA has begun its annual checking of engine conformity. Fernando Alonso's power-unit given okay - and interesting details on usage

Alonso engine used: Malaysia (P3, Q, race), China (P3, Q, race), Monaco (P3, Q, race), plus P1 + P2 in Europe, GB and Germany

[raymondu999]

That's a high usage cycle. They're not planning on using that for Monza Q+R are they?

[HampusA]

That's a high usage cycle. They're not planning on using that for Monza Q+R are they?

They probably run a fairly fresh engine for Monza as it´s very important for them to win there.