Team: Adrian Newey (CTO), Petr Prodromou (CA), Rob Marshall (CD), Christian Horner (TP)
Drivers: Sebastian Vettel (1), Mark Webber (2), Sebastian Buemi (reserve)
they want performance no matter what happend. the car is good, but some teams are very close, but it might be just Newey's ego. he needs to be first in everythinglombers wrote:Interesting considering the limited running they had with it. Are they gambling a bit on this design?cliffgamerz wrote:http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/03/h ... melbourne/
After all they will race B-spec
Scarbs wrote:Comparing Red Bull's latest sidepod and exhaust set up to the Sauber, it's clear the effect being gained is the same. Red Bull's sidepods again feature a top exit exhaust position and a length of sidepod surface behind the outlets forms a ramp for the plume to attach to. However, Red Bull has cleverly placed an undercut beneath this ramped section, which allows the around-the-sidepods undercut to reach the centre of the diffuser.
This downwash sidepod\exhaust was probably always envisaged for the RB8, as several areas of the car were optimised for its use even before the new sidepods were fitted. The car's lower wishbone has unusually narrow spaced legs, which is structurally less efficient, but for the new exhaust set up it usefully clears more space for the exhaust flow to pass through. Also, the 'V' shaped centre of the diffuser, an area known as the boat-tail, has been exposed this year. In previous years this has been faired-in under the gearbox.
Overall, and perhaps unsurprisingly, the Red Bull iteration of the downwash sidepod is perhaps the most complete and logical downwash solution. However it's not a quantum step above McLaren's solution
Not if you consider how little aero performance the system in contributing even if it is the perfect design.lombers wrote:Interesting considering the limited running they had with it. Are they gambling a bit on this design?
Look, the exhaust is going to get blown farther aft as the car goes faster. It is going to happen. Period. That being the case...kilcoo316 wrote:I'm really not.Adrian Newby wrote:You are making mountains out of mole hills.
A suggestion from the Autosport forum:raymondu999 wrote:Scarbs wrote:Comparing Red Bull's latest sidepod and exhaust set up to the Sauber, it's clear the effect being gained is the same. Red Bull's sidepods again feature a top exit exhaust position and a length of sidepod surface behind the outlets forms a ramp for the plume to attach to. However, Red Bull has cleverly placed an undercut beneath this ramped section, which allows the around-the-sidepods undercut to reach the centre of the diffuser.
This downwash sidepod\exhaust was probably always envisaged for the RB8, as several areas of the car were optimised for its use even before the new sidepods were fitted. The car's lower wishbone has unusually narrow spaced legs, which is structurally less efficient, but for the new exhaust set up it usefully clears more space for the exhaust flow to pass through. Also, the 'V' shaped centre of the diffuser, an area known as the boat-tail, has been exposed this year. In previous years this has been faired-in under the gearbox.
Overall, and perhaps unsurprisingly, the Red Bull iteration of the downwash sidepod is perhaps the most complete and logical downwash solution. However it's not a quantum step above McLaren's solution
I'm not sure I completely agree with that. Horner said that the concept was envisioned about a month before we saw it. It could be that RBR were always planning to blow over the diffuser but weren't exactly sure (hadn't settled on a firm idea) on how to go about doing so. Perhaps seeing what other teams were doing sparked an idea?
The Williams FW-16 (a Newey design) also had raised lower a-arms that were in-line with the drive shafts. That car had exhausts blowing into the diffuser and not over it, so the RB8's similar design doesn't necessary mean it was created to promote more efficient exhaust flow in that region, it could be simply for better all round airflow management.
those are reflectionsRikhart wrote:
Nice slot on that rear wing...
AutoSport. They claim, like Mercedes, RB RW has these slots.shelly wrote:The point of rear wing slots was raised by an user here some days ago.
I agree with others with those "slots" being just reflections.I think they are reflections of the rear suspension arms. I see (cold be my mistake) the refletio of the pickup points
@crucial: Where is the drawing from?
You make the diffuser as insensitive to it as possible!Adrian Newby wrote:Do you ignore it and hope everything works out? That seems to be what you are suggesting.
No I'm inclined to agree that the picture above is a reflection. However that doesn't change the fact that many technical analysts saw the slots for themselves. The wing was only tested, not ran constantly.AnthonyG wrote:The top slot (the one that continues over the whole wing) has a slightly different shape on left compared to right. So imo they're reflections.
