2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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The discrepancy between simulator and reality is also currently raising eyebrows at Red Bull. Teammate Yuki Tsunoda had already said in Suzuka that the Red Bull can be driven very differently in reality than in the simulator. Asked if that's the same for him, Verstappen refers to the Japanese: "There you have your answer."

"Sometimes it's better, sometimes worse - depending on the weekend," he says. This was particularly noticeable in Suzuka: "In the simulator, you can somehow make the car slide a little more naturally. But if that doesn't work in reality, you're more restricted."

Another problem is the extremely narrow performance window of the current Red Bull. "As soon as you want to get the maximum out of the car, the window is very narrow at the moment," Verstappen explains. Although it is not tighter than last year, "but it is not necessarily bigger at the moment. We definitely have to find more."

On the positive side, however, Red Bull often makes progress over the weekend - a circumstance that could be observed especially from Friday to Saturday. "That depends. Sometimes the balance is a little better, sometimes it's more off," Verstappen said.

Often the set-up is not optimal at first: "Most of the time it has been wrong so far because the car reacts extremely sensitively to small changes."

That's why training continues to play an important role in the development process. "Of course you want to be fast and do well, but sometimes things have to be tried out and understood," says the Dutchman.

The goal is to start the weekend in a more stable window if possible - something that can be achieved in Bahrain could at least be favored by the track layout. "I think it's going to be a bit more stable by nature - just because of the layout. There aren't that many extremely fast corners."
https://www.motorsport-total.com/forum/ ... 21&t=95050


I think the drivers understand that Red Bull need to try things to understand more.
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The complaints about the RB21 and the balance - or rather the lack thereof - continue, even though Red Bull Racing has just taken a win with Max Verstappen. At Suzuka, the reigning world champion managed to surprise in qualifying with pole, after which he had enough speed to keep both McLarens behind him in the race. "If we are in the right working window, we can – in combination with Max's extraordinary class – win, and even on our own," notes Red Bull advisor Helmut Marko in conversation with Kleine Zeitung. "But there is definitely more to come."

After qualifying at Suzuka, Verstappen stated that his team is struggling to find a 'normal, constant balance' in the car. "We are looking for that, but in qualifying we still hadn't done it," said the 27-year-old Dutchman. When he analyzed his pole lap at Viaplay, Verstappen mainly pointed to the amount of understeer in the first, twisty sector. According to Marko, there is a lot to be gained in that area. "The car needs even more balance and still understeers too much right in the middle of the corner – Max doesn't like that at all," the Austrian explained. "If we solve that, he can show a lot more. That's exactly what we're working on right now. When and how that will work, we cannot yet say."
https://nl.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-b ... /10711624/
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At least for Bahrain they have plenty of data to be able to start the weekend in a better form. Anyway I'm expecting them to be 4th force.

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Sergej wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 08:45
At least for Bahrain they have plenty of data to be able to start the weekend in a better form. Anyway I'm expecting them to be 4th force.
So far this year, everything has been less bad than expected so I think they will be 2nd fastest with chances to win.
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AR3-GP wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 10:07
Sergej wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 08:45
At least for Bahrain they have plenty of data to be able to start the weekend in a better form. Anyway I'm expecting them to be 4th force.
So far this year, everything has been less bad than expected so I think they will be 2nd fastest with chances to win.
seems "a bit" exaggerated. Mercedes will be strong and Ferrari have a new super iper hyped floor. We will see.

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RB didn't leave Bahrain test with conclusive answers and full evaluation of the status in all of their test and comparison I believe. That's much more rounded now it would seem, coupled with understanding just how it interacts with sim etc, then coming back should show more confidence in themselves to optimise.

The other teams too, but RB are sermons to pull performance advantage of it against those as well.

Can't wait to see how it all shakes out, no predicted pace status from me.

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better Max isn't lapping in this session, his radio would have been absolute cinema :lol:

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Tsunoda another driver to find out how difficult that car is. And Max is winning with it. Unbelievable.

https://x.com/RBR_Daily/status/19103764 ... hTkRw&s=19

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McLaren is on another planet :lol:

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Balance looked quite decent in the short run. Very tidy lap except for the last corner. Good in T4, and really good in T13 (which is surprising).
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Sergej wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 17:29
McLaren is on another planet :lol:
Not representative. Hadjar is ahead. :lol:
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AR3-GP wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 17:29
Balance looked quite decent in the short run. Very tidy lap except for the last corner. Good in T4, and really good in T13 (which is surprising).
The last corner is always a problem for red bull

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organic wrote:
07 Apr 2025, 20:20
Yes I really feel Bahrain weekend will bring us crashing back to reality
Thankfully happened on Friday itself :D

Have no expectations. Maybe we will be lucky to get P5 this Sunday!
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