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This is essentialy punching the rule that deems that the center shall be empty in the face.
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SchumacherM wrote:This is essentialy punching the rule that deems that the center shall be empty in the face.
Sure, but if it's legal, then why not? Surely it's nearly so damaging as the Fduct and other "exceptions". Given RB's mounting of the cameras before it's probably of very little consequence.

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Frong wings at Silverstone - What was different?

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Older wing above, new wing (bottom)

1. Camera mounting
2. Additional endplate slot
3. Main profile shape


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Wouldn't that mean they've changed the nose? Which as some people still disagree on whether changing the nose is/isn't legal?
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raymondu999 wrote:Wouldn't that mean they've changed the nose? Which as some people still disagree on whether changing the nose is/isn't legal?

i tend to believe the crash structure of the RB nose is not what we see on the outside...so this leaves some scope for the changes we see in outward shape,
similar to force india...

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Kind of like the way the W01 uses that roll-blade-fin-thingy for a roll hoop then
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but this approah will surely not be the ultimate in weight...

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What material are the Red bull exhausts made of , seems different form the Ferrari(steel)?

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Could this material be advantageous, such as retaining heat longer for unburnt fuel to burn off during throttle lift.
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I'm pretty sure the nose camera design was first seen on the Mercedes, but they are on the outside of the FW pylons, still as effective in flapping the centre section.

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F1_eng wrote:I'm pretty sure the nose camera design was first seen on the Mercedes, but they are on the outside of the FW pylons, still as effective in flapping the centre section.
I guess the first one was Force India with cam mounting inside of FW pylons.

Hard to say what is more effective without exact knowledge of whole car and CFD but it looks like it offers an advantage in terms of generated downforce to Newey's RB6.

Maybe thanks to additional benefits of Venturi effect due to camera positioning very close to the lower wing profile.
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delsando wrote:What material are the Red bull exhausts made of , seems different form the Ferrari(steel)?

Could this material be advantageous, such as retaining heat longer for unburnt fuel to burn off during throttle lift.
I'd bet they're made of the same high temp alloy, e.g. inconel, just that the light and angle isn't quite the same in each photo. They may run at slightly different temps too which might affect colour. Or they might have done more miles with one than the other.
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The exhausts probably the same or nearly the same material,,,the above are almost new,,the lower one have been run,,, and run very rich
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strad wrote:The exhausts probably the same or nearly the same material,,,the above are almost new,,the lower one have been run,,, and run very rich

Really? I would have guessed the opposite (heating metal causes the surface to oxidise more rapidly, leading to a duller finish).

I'd be happy to be proven wrong though!
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i think the Ferrari ones are simply electropolished tubing whereas the Redbull uses
tubes simply in cold drawn finish..

the Ferrari ones look like they just had minimum use justviolet to blue coloration indicating around 300°C temps.

to me the Red bull ones look used ...

example -this ones titanium ,but to show the effect:

http://www.russamer.com/ElectropolishedSample6.jpg

why would you do it? For visual inspection the polished surface highlights starting cracks much better ...

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F1_eng wrote:I'm pretty sure the nose camera design was first seen on the Mercedes, but they are on the outside of the FW pylons, still as effective in flapping the centre section.
Maybe, maybe not. RB would not get the same effect if the posts were on the outside.
Notice the big barge boards under the nose?

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