Ferrari 150° Italia

[vinuneuro]

Pat Fry:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94856

"I think Silverstone was interesting," he added. "I still think if we had to put the harder tyre on at Silverstone we would have struggled, but the wets and starting on inters helped us out there.

"I think Suzuka will be a struggle for us again, but it is similar conditions to Silverstone. Sometimes it is normally quite cool there, so one tyre we will get working well and the other we need to understand how to get the speed out of the medium."

Fry also said that the high tyre degradation Ferrari suffered in Singapore was not unexpected, even though the team has been relatively good on its rubber so far this year.

"I think that was down to the nature of the different tracks," he said. "If you go to a circuit with long, high-speed corners where you load the tyres very hard, our car is quite easy on the tyres and we don't blister the tyres or create the temperature inside the tyre to make it blister.

"In Singapore the tyre issues are not blistering or anything like that, the bulk temperature of the tyre is quite cold. But the surface temperature is very high, so the nature of this track does not suit us, whereas you have seen us look better in the past."

[Gerhard Berger]

Pat Fry:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94856

"I think Silverstone was interesting," he added. "I still think if we had to put the harder tyre on at Silverstone we would have struggled, but the wets and starting on inters helped us out there.

"I think Suzuka will be a struggle for us again, but it is similar conditions to Silverstone. Sometimes it is normally quite cool there, so one tyre we will get working well and the other we need to understand how to get the speed out of the medium."

Fry also said that the high tyre degradation Ferrari suffered in Singapore was not unexpected, even though the team has been relatively good on its rubber so far this year.

"I think that was down to the nature of the different tracks," he said. "If you go to a circuit with long, high-speed corners where you load the tyres very hard, our car is quite easy on the tyres and we don't blister the tyres or create the temperature inside the tyre to make it blister.

"In Singapore the tyre issues are not blistering or anything like that, the bulk temperature of the tyre is quite cold. But the surface temperature is very high, so the nature of this track does not suit us, whereas you have seen us look better in the past."

Well Singapore is about traction, and you could visibly see Massa and Alonso struggling to get the power down on the exit of corners and spinning their rear wheels up. I imagine that is what caused the tyres to overheat. However, i still think it is quite mysterious how Ferrari have lost their mechancial grip. I mean they strong in Canada and Monaco, yet have struggled at Monza and Singapore (these tracks being very comparable to Canada and Monaco respectively in terms of demands on car).

I also find it interesting that he predicts Ferrari will struggle at Suzuka. A couple of months ago, Alonso was saying that (since the Silverstone upgrade) the car needs high speed corners to perform well. They were very fast through the Maggots-Becketts complex at Silverstone. Therefore you would imagine all the high speed corners at Suzuka would be suited to the car.

If the car is truly easy on the tyres in high speed corners, then logically they should do longer stints on the options, and shorter stints on the prime (which they struggle on).

Overall though, i think this car has taken a step back relative to Mclaren and Red Bull since the summer break. I can't see another win happening.

[raymondu999]

Here's a theory; one that wasn't borne of myself, but of Mark Hughes. The Ferrari's suspension upgrade, which helps it generate tyre heat, as used in Silverstone-Hungary, and Singapore, reduces the car's traction. It's supposedly playing with the car's camber and making it more dynamic; but I think that could hurt the traction with less contact patch on the rears.

[PhillipM]

You can see from the upper pivots it increases the camber compensation, Mercedes also played with something similar.

[PlatinumZealot]

Here's a theory; one that wasn't borne of myself, but of Mark Hughes. The Ferrari's suspension upgrade, which helps it generate tyre heat, as used in Silverstone-Hungary, and Singapore, reduces the car's traction. It's supposedly playing with the car's camber and making it more dynamic; but I think that could hurt the traction with less contact patch on the rears.

To nitpick, The suspension upgrade wasn't realy for tyre heat. It was for the EBD (Exhaust blown diffuser). The lower kingpin joint was raised to give more room around the exhaust stream.

What you describe above has more to do with changing the upper wishbone, which is not really a full suspension change per se. Notice, that Ferrari still have heating issues.

[Owen.C93]

Can see right through the diffuser in this shot.

[Richard]

Can see right through the diffuser in this shot.

Do you mean the starter hole?

[Owen.C93]

Can see right through the diffuser in this shot.

Do you mean the starter hole?

Yeah.

[amouzouris]

new front wing..! http://www.f1talks.pl/?p=11563&pid=6176

[raymondu999]

new front wing..! http://www.f1talks.pl/?p=11563&pid=6176

Image embedded for ease:


did they not test this already in Singapore?

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

I'm not sure but i think they test it at Singapore

[shelly]

It is interesting to see that the black flapsupports (so called rainbows") are more aligned to the logitudinal axis hen o other cars, mabe ecause of their more inboard positioning

[amouzouris]

does any one know why they are not using the top right part of the front wing...most teams are using it including red bull...

[wesley123]

new front wing. 3rd plane is different, the small flip on its trailing edge is interresting though. From an regular view the Ferrari wing looks o so simple, but in the details, the Ferrari wing is one of the most detailed wings on the grid

[raymondu999]

It looks like the most sculpted in particular