Shoulder profile of nose

[timbo]

I don't think the nose of the RB7 is strongest to be honest. The McLaren has had that IMO. You just have to look at Nurburgring Turn 1 to see that McLaren were just about the only team that could hit the apex. In the long slow corners such as the slow hairpin in Nurburgring; you could also see that while others started to wash out and almost had to take the corner as a double apex, Lewis' onboard was showing him to be very happily "hugging the apex like his favorite granny."

And what that has to do with your question?

[mep]

Do you guys really start to believe now that the shape of the nose is the reason for good front grip?

BTW does anybody know how to read tea leaves?

[raymondu999]

I don't think the nose of the RB7 is strongest to be honest. The McLaren has had that IMO. You just have to look at Nurburgring Turn 1 to see that McLaren were just about the only team that could hit the apex. In the long slow corners such as the slow hairpin in Nurburgring; you could also see that while others started to wash out and almost had to take the corner as a double apex, Lewis' onboard was showing him to be very happily "hugging the apex like his favorite granny."

And what that has to do with your question?

Nothing. It has to do with answering the post right above it though

[MIKEY_!]

Do you guys really start to believe now that the shape of the nose is the reason for good front grip?

BTW does anybody know how to read tea leaves?

Are you kidding, take a low nose for example. It restricts airflow to the rear therefore changes the balance of the car. If you add ballast (we can't now obviously) to the low tip of the nose that changes the handling. These are both accepted concepts. Now a low nose will also force more air upwards and create a lower pressure below it. Extra front downforce results. If the space under the nose is large enough you'll also pull more air over the centre of the front wing. That's not much use these days but pre-2009 it was. Here's just a few examples of noses helping front grip:

[timbo]

I don't think the nose of the RB7 is strongest to be honest. The McLaren has had that IMO. You just have to look at Nurburgring Turn 1 to see that McLaren were just about the only team that could hit the apex. In the long slow corners such as the slow hairpin in Nurburgring; you could also see that while others started to wash out and almost had to take the corner as a double apex, Lewis' onboard was showing him to be very happily "hugging the apex like his favorite granny."

And what that has to do with your question?

Nothing. It has to do with answering the post right above it though

But you said nose again in your answer, that made the impression that you're still talking about nose aero.

[mep]

Do you guys really start to believe now that the shape of the nose is the reason for good front grip?

BTW does anybody know how to read tea leaves?

Are you kidding, take a low nose for example. It restricts airflow to the rear therefore changes the balance of the car. If you add ballast (we can't now obviously) to the low tip of the nose that changes the handling. These are both accepted concepts. Now a low nose will also force more air upwards and create a lower pressure below it. Extra front downforce results. If the space under the nose is large enough you'll also pull more air over the centre of the front wing. That's not much use these days but pre-2009 it was. Here's just a few examples of noses helping front grip:

This topic and the initial question was clearly about the transion between the vertical planes and horizontal top planes. No one is talking about low or high nose. So what do you want to tell with your pictures?
They all have very similar transion shape and that really doesnt make a hughe difference.

[MIKEY_!]

Sorry it sounded like you were making it into an issue of the whole nose

[aleks_ader]

This shoulder design efect is depend...



on which characteristic do you want..the property use of this front nose is for aero pourpuse, with low drag penalty and penalty on downforce... If i m right???
So in my opinon is this design for most of races unuseful!!!