ringo wrote:A road car isn't about fuel consumption.
If it were, all cars would be like smart cars, or bmw isetas. They would be small.
There is a trend since the inception of the car to increase horsepower. Even when fuel consumption is improving, the power of the engine is increasing.
Excuse me but then you have been under a rock for the past 10 years. Road car manufacturers more and more go for less consumption and research/use alternate fuels. Together with the f1 itself and most other autosports going green making a 1000hp engine just doesnt make sense.
Racing is about performance first and foremost. The aspect of road cars that should be adressed in racing is the performance aspect; not fuel crisis, or interior design, or colours, or trunk room.
And in what aspect has the F1 ever been relevant to road cars? I cannot think of any technology that was pioneered in F1 that was later used in road cars.
I don't see any reason to change that, the LMP is a much better way to use road car technology.
Apart from that, how can F1 ever be relevant to road cars if anything relevant is disallowed?
And if F1 was serious about fuel consumption, there would be refueling and reduced car weight.
Everything F1 does is incredibly half-arsed, take a look at KERS and sudden rule changes. It is rather they seem to want it to make themselves look good while filling their pockets even more, much like the missions in Afghanistan and Iraq, although that is a whole different thing.
I am 100% sure that when you remove it's wings it will not be able to corner like an f1 anymore.
Depends on the regulations.
No it does not, you are taking around 60% of their aerodynamical grip, and that cannot be regained by mechanical grip. 60% is a large number and is there anything extra that these teams can use to gain mechanical grip that they dont use now? Sure there are a few things possible, but to what is known and what is allowed in f1 there isnt really a lot more to gain. That is when we dont go to 6 wheelers.
I do not see how increasing hp cancels out aero dominance. There are more ristrictions on mechanical parts than on aerodynamics.
It does. Notice how important aerodynamics is on a soap box car?
The more power you have the less impact the drag has on the car, The
higher the end of straight speeds, the higher the braking distance, the higher the demand on the tyres, more oversteer/understeer correction.
Basically increasing the engine power, will make the car behave as if some of the aero was taken away. Just look on the above points underlined and tell me if these symptoms aren't one and the same for reducing aero.
The most important thing is that the cornering speeds are maintained.
Excuse me but that is just rubbish. The only thing that is going to happen is that the cars will go 30kph faster and can add a ton of more downforce because the horsepower is there, simply will cause the teams to go even more into aerodynamics simply because the room is there to do so. They can simply say 'we are going to add a sh*tload of wings everywhere because we have the power to do so'
In fact forget 1000hp, the cars should have about 1200hp. Put that in a 2011 car and you have a spectacle in your hands. It would bring Luca to tears of joy.
Close your eyes and take 5 seconds to imagine what 1200hp looks like from the driver's helmet in a current f1 car.
Wow great now we have 1200hp that will sure fix the f1. Apart from that drivers will reach speeds of around 400kph down the straight. Simply increasing the hp is jsut a rubbish idea and doesnt help anything. Wow they got 1200hp, now they can bolt on any wing they got and still the aerodynamic dependance stays the same since out oft hat still nothing is allowed.
I do not see how you can neglect the reduction in CO2 output. It is an simple fact that everyone 'wants' to reduce the CO2 output of their cars. You seriously need to open your eyes, here in every car commercial it's fuel consumption is mentioned as well as CO2 output, and in other countries it is the same. Sure that people want to reduce fuel consumption isn't the case. When you think about road cars you don't think right, you think about Ferrari's and other high performance road cars only going fast. And that is where you go wrong, you need to think the cars everyone got, even these expensive Mercedes' and BMWs go greener and Porsches go greener too.
I started thinking it's too low