Exhausts in 2013

[Cam]

LOL ray, I thought the question was fairly obvious at the OP without getting into the semantics.

Red Bull would struggle as would Ferrari I think. The real winners would be Lotus and Sauber as I think their mechanical grip is much better. Mclaren always seem to be in the middle of mechanical and aero, which is why they never really dominate either way this year (recent form excepted), so they might benefit too.

My pick would be Sauber. Their car just seems to be more consistently better with the tyres and if you take away any aero trickery, I think they would be a top team.

[Nando]

So this year have been quite interesting in that respect.
I think the most interesting one was Ferrari withe the most horrendous looking exhaust setup ever in F1.
On a more rational level we saw the Mclaren "right-out-of-the-box"-solution and then finally the odd but genius one, the Sauber solution.

Been great actually watching the teams cycle through setups and evolving the exhausts through the year and it got me thinking for next year.

What setups do you think will be the most common ones?

The Renault, Williams solution, conserved but effecient (hp wise)
The Sauber mini-ramp.
The Mclaren bulge
The Ferrari old school Acer Ducts
The Red Bull mega-ramp with tunnel.
The Mercedes sidepod exhaust (the old one with the exhaust very "high"up the car)
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Personally i think the Mclaren bulge might be the most common one, it seems like the cheapest one and probably the most accessible downforce boost you can get.
I´m guessing most mid-field and low-field teams will opt for that design.

But when it comes to the Trio i´m really interested to see what they might do.

I think that Mclaren and Ferrari might go for a RBR-Ramp, Tunnel system, the question is...will RBR keep theirs?
Perhaps Newey "has been at it again.." and come up with something new or changed to an already established solution.

[Hail22]

Very interesting topic...I'm going to go with the 3 Amigos

1. Mclaren Exhaust
2. Sauber Ramp
3. Red Bull Ramp, tunnel system


However...knowing what has been learned this year there may yet be a 4th solution/design that may rear its head out of the workshop winter testing 2013?

[Shrieker]

Don't you guys think it's pretty much obvious that they are all feeding diffuser sides, using the engine as an air pump and all. Why aren't the FIA going further to enforce their own rules (if they aren't) ? I'd have imagined more work from the FIA in this respect. Maybe making something like the exhausts on WSR or Gp2 cars mandatory for next year. They're thinking of 2014 maybe ? But that doesn't make much sense when you consider they went bonkers in 2011 trying to ban it mid season.

[wrcsti]

Don't you guys think it's pretty much obvious that they are all feeding diffuser sides, using the engine as an air pump and all. Why aren't the FIA going further to enforce their own rules (if they aren't) ? I'd have imagined more work from the FIA in this respect. Maybe making something like the exhausts on WSR or Gp2 cars mandatory for next year. They're thinking of 2014 maybe ? But that doesn't make much sense when you consider they went bonkers in 2011 trying to ban it mid season.

Because the genie is out of the bottle. The only way for the FIA to ccompletely end aerodynamic exhaust tuning would be to have a fixed position similar to what lotus ran earlier this year. And considering in 2014 the turbos will likely have a single central mounted exhaust its probably best to just let them play with it one more year and then be over with it.


Now what do I expect next year? A very wild mix between the ramp/tunnel and mclaren type exhaust. Imagine taking the mclaren exhaust and then ramping the trailing edge to the floor. While still keeping the large underside tunnel.

[WhiteBlue]

Don't you guys think it's pretty much obvious that they are all feeding diffuser sides, using the engine as an air pump and all. Why aren't the FIA going further to enforce their own rules (if they aren't) ? I'd have imagined more work from the FIA in this respect.

The FiA are pretty much done with the exhaust system. Next year they leave the rules as they are because it is the last year with high exhaust energy levels anyway. From 2014 the MGU-H and the compressor will take massive kinetic and thermal energy out of the exhaust in the magnitude of 130 hp as Ringo calculated in the engine thread. That low energy gas will not do much at all for your aerodynamics.