V10 - V8 comparison

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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It looked like the V10s had a little more grunt out of the corners for about a second, then they fell off. :?:
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DR_K13 wrote:It looked like the V10s had a little more grunt out of the corners for about a second, then they fell off. :?:
I don't think so. Scott speed finished what 13th?
In a minardi no less with 22 cars in the field. If anything I believe they were holding back and waiting for Malasia this coming week to show there real strength. Just a thought.
Interesting though that I believe Cosworth has the 4 best engines right now.
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In the Bahrain race, I liked how they showed Luizzi and another driver, I think it was a BMW or RBR or a Williams, and they were driving side by side for awhile, it was a fight between a V8 and V10 and it was so evenly matched, it looked great.
Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
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I agree that the Cosworths are looking strong. No surprise, really, considering their vast experience with V8. Also no surprise that the V10 is doing well, since the V10/V8 equivalency formula was calculated by Cosworth based on their own motors.

This raises an interesting issue regarding the equivalency formula. If the formula is accurate between the Cosworth V10 and the V8, then if the STR team performs well, it demonstrates not so much that the formula is flawed, but that the Cosworth V8 may be better than the other manufacturers', as Williams seems to be proving.

If any of this is true, then if the teams convince the FIA to change the equivalency formula, it will not be because the formula is flawed, but only because the manufacturers haven't reached the Cosworth V8 level of performance yet. That would be too bad STR and Cosworth.

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If u look at the Testing times from Valencia 2005 http://www.atlasf1.com/news/testing/ the fastest time is actually slower by some margin than the incredible lap set by Davidson in 2006 testinghttp://www.f1racing.net/en/testresults.php?testID=509 and as far as i am aware the Track in valencia hasn't been changed

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zac510 wrote:
ranger wrote:a cosworth...maybe :lol:
To do it in the chassis and to race with it regularly to 20 000rpm will be a lot harder.
I did hear a commentator mention that the Cosworth did actually hit 20k during qualifying.
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I thought that Toro Rosso was using the RB1 and not the old minardi chassis?
Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
John McClane: [on the phone] Yeah, I got a deal for you. Come out from that rock you're hiding under, and I'll drive this truck up your ass.

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m3_lover wrote:I thought that Toro Rosso was using the RB1 and not the old minardi chassis?
That could be, does anyone have any info on this?
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Of course they do. Just compare pics of 2005 Midardi with 2006 Toro Rosso.
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google for more pics if you don't find these enough

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Toro Rosso got lucky because the RB1 was actually designed by Jaguar Racing in 2004/2005, so Red Bull said that Toro Rosso can use the old car (RB1) because it was not designed by Red Bull Racing at the time. That is why Super Aguri had to use the old chassis of Arrows because they could not buy Honda's old chassis (007) becuase of some rule (I do not the exact ruling or specific wording, can anybody help me on this???)

If Red Bull did not find that loop hole, they would have to use the minardi chassis.
Simon: Nils? You can close in now. Nils?
John McClane: [on the guard's phone] Attention! Attention! Nils is dead! I repeat, Nils is dead, ----head. So's his pal, and those four guys from the East German All-Stars, your boys at the bank? They're gonna be a little late.
Simon: [on the phone] John... in the back of the truck you're driving, there's $13 billon dollars worth in gold bullion. I wonder would a deal be out of the question?
John McClane: [on the phone] Yeah, I got a deal for you. Come out from that rock you're hiding under, and I'll drive this truck up your ass.

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Basicly the STR1 is a Copy of the RB1, Its not the same car. IF that makes sence.

If you look at the super aguri, From the Driver backwards it looks like the honda.
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