I would argue there is no sensible crank design that would reduce windage losses.
Shaping the counterweights results in a large inertia and crank centreline penalty and as such cranks of the 20k+ rpm era have always been very "bricky".
Edax, I'd be interested in your thoughts about this:Edax wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 01:24Yes but you get a whole host of other problems back for single crystals.johnny comelately wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 00:26I'm trying to understand the merits of different crystalline structures as they apply to crankshaft applications.
for example, grain boundary crack initiated problems are reduced by single crystal steels.
The advantage of single crystals is that they are very strong. But since the crystal planes are running through the whole workpiece you are susceptible to cleavage along a crystal plane. sC’s are therefore inherently more brittle than their grainy counterparts.
In SC you have no grains sliding against each other, but in single crystals you can get the whole material to slip over a crystal plane so they are not immune to creep.
One advantage of singly crystals is that you do not suffer from grain growth, since you only have one grain. So for high temperatures that can be an advantage. For Polycristalline materials you have to play some tricks like putting an inert material along the grain boundaries (grain pinning). Problem is that the best materials like thorium oxide are being banned.
A real advantage can be the heat conductivity, like in turbine blades. Having no grain boundaries and secondary phases really helps here.
Of course there are single crystals which have their specialist uses, sapphire for bearrings, watches barcode scanners etc (scratch resistance). Or CaF for optical windows.
But overall I seldomly come across a large mechanical application where the advantages of single crystals outweigh the problems with brittleness. Alloys where you have the freedom of controlling microstructure are usually a lot more versatile.
It is a beautiful piece of engineering.The application is also very impressive. 20 years ago I worked for a shop which coated turbine parts (they also did F1 engine parts). It is incredible how much gains they have been able to get out of these turbines since then.johnny comelately wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 01:44Edax, I'd be interested in your thoughts about this:
Neil Glover, chief of materials, Rolls-Royce
The single-crystal structure isn’t intended to cope with temperature, however; it’s to make the blades resistant to the huge mechanical loads that result from their rotational speed. “Every single blade extracts power from the gas stream equivalent to a Formula One car engine,” Glover said. “And the centrifugal force on them is equivalent to the weight of a double-decker bus.”
Normally, metals are composed of many crystals – ordered structures of atoms arranged in a regular lattice, which form naturally as the metal cools from a molten state. These crystals are typically of the order of tens of microns in size, positioned in many orientations. At high temperatures and under strain, the crystals can slide against each other, and impurities can diffuse along the boundaries between the grains. This is known as creep, and it badly affected early turbine blades, which were forged from steel and later nickel bars.
The first stage in development was to get rid of any grain boundaries at right angles to the centrifugal loading, which led to the development of blades that were cast so the metal crystals all ran from top to bottom. Later, this was optimised further by casting single crystals, with no grain boundaries at all. It’s a highly complex process: not only must the blades be cast with the internal cooling channels already in place, but the crystals are not homogeneous. Rather, zones of different composition and crystallographic structure exist within the blade.
Could You explain how did You get 555,61 MPa @1.26E7 cycles? Thank You in fwd!Mudflap wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 16:08No mystery there - chances are that no design changes were required to make the cranks last.
If we assume that engines run on average about 3 hours per race weekend it means that last season's engine life was 15 hours while this year it has gone up to 21 hours. At an average speed of 10kRPM, the cranks had to last 9E6 fatigue cycles last year and 1.26E7 cycles this year.
In fatigue theory a component loaded within its endurance limit will last indefinitely. For steel the fatigue strength is usually defined at 1E7 cycles. It is therefore very likely that last season's cranks were designed for theoretically infinite life.
If we examine a typical woehler curve for 4140 steel (first one I could find and a common crank material) with a fatigue strength coefficient of 1745 MPa and a fatigue strength exponent of -0.07 we can calculate the maximum allowable alternating stress to be 568.85 MPa @9E6 cycles and 555.61 MPa @1.26E7 cycles.
This means that to make the crank go from 5 to 7 race weekend stress needs to be reduced by a mere 2%. For all practical purposes the cranks can be identical.
Not really, zirconia, which is the basis for most TBC’s switches crystal structure between RT and high temperatures. This is quite violent as it goes with a big volume change. If you would sinter zirconia pure and let it cool down it would crack.johnny comelately wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 22:29Edax,
I see that yttrium (oxide?) is also used for grain pinning, is it a coincidence that it s also one of the thermal barrier coating materials in relation to your work (previous?)
Is there any similarity with carbon's MO when added to iron?
Thank you for thatEdax wrote: ↑04 Apr 2018, 00:05Not really, zirconia, which is the basis for most TBC’s switches crystal structure between RT and high temperatures. This is quite violent as it goes with a big volume change. If you would sinter zirconia pure and let it cool down it would crack.johnny comelately wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 22:29Edax,
I see that yttrium (oxide?) is also used for grain pinning, is it a coincidence that it s also one of the thermal barrier coating materials in relation to your work (previous?)
Is there any similarity with carbon's MO when added to iron?
The way to prevent this is to stablize the high temperature phase during cooling. For this you add Yttria. When you buy zirconia ceramics it usually says Yttria- or Magnesium stabilized.
But you’re right lanthanides are also used for grain pinning. I know La2O3 is used in tungsten to prevent grain growth and creep, for instance in light bulb filaments to prevent sagging, or welding tips.