Gardening leave in F1 and personnel transfer in general

[Pyrone89]

It must be factored in to the rate for the job, in the same way traveling is in others.
I doubt someone in a position to take one of these jobs would not consider loss of earnings for the 6 months at the end.
Some jobs require a re-training period before starting. It could be looked at the same.
As long as the overall payment is sufficient and it is not a matter of being told where you next apply that they have 'been out of the trade too long' does it matter? I suppose it would to some and not others?

My career is currently retired.
As I worked in test, I regularly had to 'go back to school' as part of the job, for which I was paid. Probably the same sort of thing.

Retired as in old age retirement of ‘retired’ as in wealthy as f?

I have enough money to last me the rest of my life (if I do not live as long as I intend too )

Early retirement, but by no means well off, just keeping it at about the same as working, but without the working expenses, so that expense it goes on holidays.

Ahh retirement. The golden harbor when you can finally say F U to waking up early and having to go to work. Hope to experience it also one day

[Pyrone89]

There is the perspective from the employer, but also the perspective of the sport.

The "sport" doesn't pay the salaries and make the contracts, the employer does.

If the FIA wants to spice up the teams' technical teams, they would have to employ the people directly and then short term contract them to the teams.

The FIA can't impose third party terms on employment contracts. Not in any proper jurisdiction, anyway. And trying to force the teams to do this won't work either.

Well the NFL seems to be ableto dictate player salaries and all kinds of things. But America is a bitof a strange coumtry with its legal system to be fair.

[Just_a_fan]

Just how many people would this concern? are we talking 5 - 10 people in the team or 50+?

5 - 10, or maybe one a year on average (assuming it does not get activated for lay off or dis continued team) is not that major in the scale of things (except for those concerned ) but if it really is widespread I am surprised EU has not already got involved.

It is only really the top guys in each department. So exactly the same as many companies in other fields. The EU doesn't get involved because no laws are being broken.

[Pyrone89]

Just how many people would this concern? are we talking 5 - 10 people in the team or 50+?

5 - 10, or maybe one a year on average (assuming it does not get activated for lay off or dis continued team) is not that major in the scale of things (except for those concerned ) but if it really is widespread I am surprised EU has not already got involved.

It is only really the top guys in each department. So exactly the same as many companies in other fields. The EU doesn't get involved because no laws are being broken.

And I think it is none of the EU’s business anyway (especially not in 2,5 months time), think it is a national level thing

[Just_a_fan]

There is the perspective from the employer, but also the perspective of the sport.

The "sport" doesn't pay the salaries and make the contracts, the employer does.

If the FIA wants to spice up the teams' technical teams, they would have to employ the people directly and then short term contract them to the teams.

The FIA can't impose third party terms on employment contracts. Not in any proper jurisdiction, anyway. And trying to force the teams to do this won't work either.

Well the NFL seems to be ableto dictate player salaries and all kinds of things. But America is a bitof a strange coumtry with its legal system to be fair.

The NFL players have, effectively, a union. The union has agreed minimum player wages with the NFL (and thus the teams). The top guys still get $20million + endorsements / year.

[Pyrone89]

The "sport" doesn't pay the salaries and make the contracts, the employer does.

If the FIA wants to spice up the teams' technical teams, they would have to employ the people directly and then short term contract them to the teams.

The FIA can't impose third party terms on employment contracts. Not in any proper jurisdiction, anyway. And trying to force the teams to do this won't work either.

Well the NFL seems to be ableto dictate player salaries and all kinds of things. But America is a bitof a strange coumtry with its legal system to be fair.

The NFL players have, effectively, a union. The union has agreed minimum player wages with the NFL (and thus the teams). The top guys still get $20million + endorsements / year.

I meant the rules from the NFL about when you have to cut a player, make him available for other teams etc.

[subcritical71]

Well the NFL seems to be ableto dictate player salaries and all kinds of things. But America is a bitof a strange coumtry with its legal system to be fair.

The NFL players have, effectively, a union. The union has agreed minimum player wages with the NFL (and thus the teams). The top guys still get $20million + endorsements / year.

I meant the rules from the NFL about when you have to cut a player, make him available for other teams etc.

That may work for the drivers (players). I don't follow the NFL but how do they handle the coaches, support staff and management? That would be more like what you are looking for with the F1 team staff. I would guess there are no such restrictions.

[Pyrone89]

The NFL players have, effectively, a union. The union has agreed minimum player wages with the NFL (and thus the teams). The top guys still get $20million + endorsements / year.

I meant the rules from the NFL about when you have to cut a player, make him available for other teams etc.

That may work for the drivers (players). I don't follow the NFL but how do they handle the coaches, support staff and management? That would be more like what you are looking for with the F1 team staff. I would guess there are no such restrictions.

Not sure, but different sports ofcourse. There is a good argument that the designers + drivers are the real players in F1

[Big Tea]

Just how many people would this concern? are we talking 5 - 10 people in the team or 50+?

5 - 10, or maybe one a year on average (assuming it does not get activated for lay off or dis continued team) is not that major in the scale of things (except for those concerned ) but if it really is widespread I am surprised EU has not already got involved.

It is only really the top guys in each department. So exactly the same as many companies in other fields. The EU doesn't get involved because no laws are being broken.

And I think it is none of the EU’s business anyway (especially not in 2,5 months time), think it is a national level thing

It still would be under EU rules as they operate in EU countries. Some teams also have headquaters and finance in EU countries that are staying.

[subcritical71]

It is only really the top guys in each department. So exactly the same as many companies in other fields. The EU doesn't get involved because no laws are being broken.

And I think it is none of the EU’s business anyway (especially not in 2,5 months time), think it is a national level thing

It still would be under EU rules as they operate in EU countries. Some teams also have headquaters and finance in EU countries that are staying.

And then the drivers are basically contractors, who could have another home country from their team/fia. I would think this gets messy very quickly and would probably make lawyers a boat load of money.

[Jolle]

I suspect all drivers are employed by their own companies who have a contract with the team. But drivers aren’t put in gardening leave anyway.

[gshevlin]

Every top-line driver I ever read about has one or more "front" companies, usually incorporated in an offshore tax haven, which provides the driving and marketing services of the driver to his contracted team or teams and their sponsors and marketing partners.
Beyond that, it usually gets murky, as the driver's accountants and management will adopt the most tax-efficient approaches to make sure that the driver and his management keep as much of the driver's earnings as possible.