I'm not sure what you mean by this. The CBR1000RR-R is a inline 4 engine, not a V4. Is Honda making a V4 for the CBR? If so, any links/sources to confirm this?etusch wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 08:32I think Honda made 3R version of CBR to compete at WSBK. It's road version is able to make 300 km/h at 4th gear ( insane ) and still there are 5th and 6th. It's 215 hp but in the same time 200 kg weight. I am sure it's race version is little bit more powerfull and little bit lighter. Maybe it's power goes up 240 hp like Ducati but I don't think it's weight go down as low as 140 kg like Ducati Panigale. Weight is very important.Honda Porsche fan wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 21:22Have any of you been following Honda's progress in World Superbike or BSB? I was curious about their struggles, weaknesses and strengths and what really is their cause.
I watched some of the recent World Superbike races and the Honda CBR1000RR-R is performing much better, a top 4 or 5 bike now. During the last race the announcers said the Honda seemed to have a top speed advantage over the Kawasaki now, it's much harder to pass on the straights. So, the Honda has good top end power but is it the midrange and acceleration off corners that is lacking or is it the chassis/handling that is the problem?
Someone on another forum posted this about the Honda's WSBK problems below...
"The Honda has handling issues. It is not able to work with the Pirelli tires, as it was likely developed around the Bridgestones they use at Suzuka. WSBK created Super Concessions to enable manufacturers who qualify to be able to make changes outside the typical range of adjustments in the rules. In this instance, Honda is able to revise front end and (I think) swing arm pivot location more than other OEMs."
Also, off topic, I often times here the announcers in MotoGP, World Superbike and Moto America say that the Yamaha has great corner speed.
Honda are making Vee block engines for motocycle's too, so I think they should go for it for RR-R Sp and in the same time WSBK version too. That may solve their acceleration issue, if there is some participation of their engine in the deficit of acceleration.
Of course power/weight ratio is not only thing there that affects performance. There should be somethings more. If they can not make tyre work with the bike, tyre has so much affect on the performance that it may cause best bike to go deep down on the grid.
I would have liked to have more news about their developments. I like these kind of things much.
Are you sure "acceleration" is a issue for the CBR1000RR-R? From what I read and heard the engine is pretty good. The CBR's problem is the chassis/handling with the Pirelli's. The Honda CBR1000RR-R was designed and tested on Bridgestone's in Japan.
The only bike that seems to work well on all tires is the Yamaha R1.
