Steve Irwin killed by stingray

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Yes he died pretty quickly, the when the helicopter arrived it was already to late.

A great loss, I used to enjoy watchin steve's programmes, he was a great character and did alot of australia.

I honestly can't believe it....

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I checked the species of the stingray to stung Steve Irwin, I found out it was a Short-tailed stingray. Image: Image
Quote from en.wikipedia.org.
The short-tail stingray (Dasyatis brevicaudata) also known as the smooth stingray, belongs to the stingray family Dasyatidae. It is sometimes confusingly called the bull ray, although that names is generally used for the genus Pteromylaeus. The short-tail stingray is found on the continental shelf in the Indian Ocean, and around temperate and subtropical coasts of Australia and New Zealand, at depths of up to 470 m.[2][3] It is reputed to be the largest stingray in the world; the diameter of its disk is up to 2 m (6 ft), its length (including tail) is up to 4.3 m (14 ft), and it weighs as much as 350 kg (770 lb).[4]

The short-tail stingray is an ovoviviparous[5] and is large and plain with a bluntly angular snout and pectoral disc with round tips, a thick-based tail shorter than the body, and with a small upper and a long lower caudal finfold, the lower not reaching the tail tip. The tail ends in a vertically flattened fin-like tip. The disc is smooth except for a large, slender thorn on the tail in front of the stings. There are often 2 stings, the front one small, the rear one considerably larger, which bear toxin glands. Its coloration is grey-brown or bluish-grey dorsally with a row of small, pale blue spots at each pectoral fin base, and white ventrally. [6]

They are generally found on soft bottoms and feed on crabs, mantis shrimp, bivalves, polychaetes, crustaceans and conger eels.[7] Its teeth are flattened and plate-like. This species is only found as far north as Maroochydore.[4]
A large group off the coast of New Zealand.
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A large group off the coast of New Zealand.

It frequently raises its tail with barb in a scorpion-like fashion when approached. Though it can inflict severe wounds, it is considered more inquisitive than aggressive.[4]
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I don't wish anybody dead, but he was asking for it.

If you spend your life provoking dangerous animals, you can't be surprised when your luck runs out.
Personally I prefer the old school, David Attenborough type of natural history presenter.
I want a non-intrusive presenter to show me animals in their natural habitat, acting naturally. This includes everything from animals grooming each other and taking turns feeding while a mate is looking out for danger, to male dolphins ganging up on a female and raping her.
If its natural I want to see it.

What I have no desire to see is a bloke (admittedly an enthusiastic and allegedly nice bloke) holding his child while feeding a croc. That was just sensationalism and not necessary.
I don't know the exact circumstances of his death as I wasn't there and haven't seen the video, but with his track record I guess he pushed his luck too far once too often and, unfortunately, his luck ran out.

He will be missed by many. Not just Aussies, but many fans of sensationalist nature programmes, but he won't be missed by me.
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EKE wrote:
What I have no desire to see is a bloke (admittedly an enthusiastic and allegedly nice bloke) holding his child while feeding a croc. That was just sensationalism and not necessary.
You make a point there, but there is more to his behavior than just "provokating" dangerous animals. Species classed as dangerous ones are most of times the most endangered ones, precisely because they're thought to be ruthless and cruel, and so are exterminated without creating a fuss in people's opinion.

That's the main reason why devoted scientists like Steve Irwin try to prove everyday that crocos, sharks, etc.. are not "nasty" life beings, but just animals that won't attack you with no reason like monsters.

I personnaly think peoples like J.Y.Cousteau or V. Taylor for instance have had a huge impact on people's mind about dangerous species.
Look at Rodney Fox, the aussie was biten by a great white and suffered 462 stiches!(see pics if your heart is well hung) Still, he managed to get back to work with sharks, and calmly analysed the accident was his own fault.Furthermore, the accident was a proof that the attack wasn't aimed to kill (with 3T/cm² of pressure in the shark jaws, he should have been cut in two), and so paradoxally proved that the specie wasn't interested in human flesh. In that case the tragedy turned to be a good thing (on the 2nd degree, ok). What I mean is that the risk is there, for sure, but it is not stupid or useless.

Those personalities IMO deserves huge respect for their actions, and if you think it is stupid to take the risk to swim near a stingray, you have to remember it is (by far) most dangerous to cross the street in front of you house!

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THE CROCODILES ARE CRYING

Endless visions fill my head – this man – as large as life
And instantly my heart mourns for his angels and his wife
Because the way I see Steve Irwin – just put everything aside
It comes back to his family – it comes back to his pride

His animals inclusive – Crikey – light the place with love!
Shine his star with everything he fought to rise above
The crazy-man of Khaki from the day he left the pouch
Living out his dream and in that classic ‘Stevo’ crouch

Exploding forth with character and redefining cheek
It’s one thing to be honoured as a champion unique
It’s one thing to have microphones and spotlight cameras shoved
It’s another to be taken in and genuinely loved

But that was where he had it right – I guess he always knew
From his fathers’ modest reptile park and then Australia Zoo
We cringed at times and shook our heads – but true to natures call
There was something very Irwin in the make up of us all

Yes the more I care to think of it – the more he had it right
If you’re going to make a difference – make it big and make it bright!
Yes - he was a lunatic! Yes - he went head first!
But he made the world feel happy with his energetic burst

A world so large and loyal that it’s hard to comprehend
I doubt we truly count the warmth until life meets an end
To count it now I say a prayer with words of inspiration
May the spotlight shine forever on his dream for conservation

…My daughter broke the news to me – my six year old in tears
It was like she’d just turned old enough to show her honest fears
I tried to make some sense of it but whilst her Dad was trying
His little girl explained it best…she said “The crocodiles are crying”

Their best mate’s up in heaven now – the crocs up there are smiling!
And as sure as flowers, poems and cards and memories are piling
As sure as we’ll continue with the trademarks of his spiel
Of all the tributes worthy – he was rough…but he was real

As sure as ‘Crikey!’ fills the sky
I think we’ll miss ya Steve…goodbye

RUPERT McCALL 2006

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Was Steve Irwin a scientist or a showman?
Did he bring new information about animal's behaviour to the world or just show what they could do?
I do want to see what happened to him, not out of morbid curiosity, but to see if he provoked the "pussy cat of the sea" into defending itself or was the victim of an unfortunate accident.
Australia has only had three deaths from stingrays before Steve's demise, but were any of these caused by people provoking the animals? I guess Steve's was, but I say again, I don't know.

Crossing the street may be more dangerous than swimming with stingrays, but I have no intention of playing in traffic to show how dangerous it is and I take reasonable precautions when crossing the street, so hopefully I should be OK. If I did play in traffic I'd expect to get hit. Would this show how dangerous traffic is or that I didn't hold my own safety in a high enough regard?[/quote]
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The last thing steve was is a SHOWMAN, and im not going to even explain why.......

A private person who made this place that little bit better....
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EKE wrote:Did he bring new information about animal's behaviour to the world or just show what they could do?
Isn't "showing what they could do"... "information about the animal's behaviour"?
EKE wrote:I do want to see what happened to him, not out of morbid curiosity, but to see if he provoked the "pussy cat of the sea" into defending itself or was the victim of an unfortunate accident.
Australia has only had three deaths from stingrays before Steve's demise, but were any of these caused by people provoking the animals? I guess Steve's was, but I say again, I don't know.
Pussycat of the sea. LOL. These things are anything buy pussycats.

Deaths from rays are rare because they dont have poision, the "venom" is a toxin that causes something akin to an allergic reaction, some people react worse than others. Steve died because he got hit in the worst possible place (apart from the brain maybe).

Most reports are that Steve was over the top of the ray when it was spooked by the cameraman in front.

He was always extremely careful about handling animals, he knew what he was doing. Steve came across as being a yahoo, because he was energetic whilst doing it.

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Charge the cameraman with manslaughter?
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