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Belatti wrote:
jon-mullen wrote: Those ribs look reallllllly good Belatti. Must take hours.

Edit: oh and I just watched the Nando's chicken video, you know it's not nice to make fun of people's accents!
At least 6 hours. The grease melts and falls to the ground, you end eating pure lean meat :D

In the video, Nando sometimes says "chikan" and not "chicken"
Funny thing, there is a chain food place in Toronto called Nando's Chicken, I thought about the way he pronounced chicane when I was eating there.

BTW the place sucks, food is terrible, only ate there because it was Halal.

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roost89 wrote:
I go against a fair amount of what PETA say. I don't even know why they're popular.

I'm not sure there're many vegetarian drivers. I don't think you'd be able to be fully fit without meat, of some kind, in your diet. It provides alot of the proteins that's easy to convert. Also some essential oils and the like.
I know you can take tablets for this but their effectiveness...I'm not so sure.

Not trying to start a debate on vegetarianism here, but I can't see a reason why you'd cut meat out of a diet if you're in a full-on sport like F1.

I'm off for a bacon roll! \:D/
100g of chicken has 24.5 grammes of protein (21.8 skinless),6.5g of fat (3.1 skinless), 171 calories (116 skinless) and no fibre whatsoever.
100g of Quorn on the other hand, has 15g of protein, but only 2.1g of fat, 94 calories and 4.5g of fibre.

100g of beef mince has 24g of protein, but 20.3g of fat, 225 calories, 60mg of carbs and no fibre.
100g of quorn beef mince has 14.5g of protein, but 2g of fat, 94 calories, o carbs and 6g of fibre.

F1 drivers have to keep a low body fat and be very lean, so arguably, the fat and calories contents are more important then the protein. Most of them don't weigh much anyway, so only need the protein requirments of girls, and i would imagine in Felipe Massas case, it would be less lol.

And on an environmentally friendly note, 300g of meat = 60 litres of fuel.

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jon-mullen wrote: Edit: oh and I just watched the Nando's chicken video , you know it's not nice to make fun of people's accents!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX1jh7QdrpY[/youtube]

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dancingrobot wrote: 100g of chicken has 24.5 grammes of protein (21.8 skinless),6.5g of fat (3.1 skinless), 171 calories (116 skinless) and no fibre whatsoever.
100g of Quorn on the other hand, has 15g of protein, but only 2.1g of fat, 94 calories and 4.5g of fibre.

100g of beef mince has 24g of protein, but 20.3g of fat, 225 calories, 60mg of carbs and no fibre.
100g of quorn beef mince has 14.5g of protein, but 2g of fat, 94 calories, o carbs and 6g of fibre.

F1 drivers have to keep a low body fat and be very lean, so arguably, the fat and calories contents are more important then the protein. Most of them don't weigh much anyway, so only need the protein requirments of girls, and i would imagine in Felipe Massas case, it would be less lol.

Do they need the fat and caloric energy intake to work out and build muscle?

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In F1 ? I doubt that there is. I'm sure their nutritionist would require them to eat a balanced diet, more so as in every race they undergo such a strenuous drive.

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frackk00 wrote:In F1 ? I doubt that there is. I'm sure their nutritionist would require them to eat a balanced diet, more so as in every race they undergo such a strenuous drive.
ARGH! THREAD RESURRECTION! DIE DIE DIE!
Yer.

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frackk00 wrote:In F1 ? I doubt that there is. I'm sure their nutritionist would require them to eat a balanced diet, more so as in every race they undergo such a strenuous drive.
What's unbalanced about a vegetarian diet?
Alejandro L.

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treehugger.com wrote:World famous track star Carl Lewis wasn't always a vegetarian. But he eventually went even further: he adopted a vegan diet to prepare for the World Championships in 1991, where he says he ran the best meet of his life. And he wasn't the only one who held that opinion--after seeing the results of his race, Track & Field magazine remarked, "It had become hard to argue that he is not the greatest athlete ever to set foot on track or field." He won ABC's Wide World of Sports Athlete of the Year in 1991 as a result. Carl Lewis earned a total of 10 Olympic medals over his career, nine of them gold medals.
more examples here:

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You know how some veggies bang on about "Meat is Murder"? Surely veg is murder also as vegetables are living things until they are picked.

Considering who one of the most infamous vegetarians was, I think it is a bad sign. :lol:

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andrew wrote:You know how some veggies bang on about "Meat is Murder"? Surely veg is murder also as vegetables are living things until they are picked.
Vegetables don't have emotions, they are by no mean self-aware beings. That is the basic ethical reason.

To equalize vegetables with animals, they'd need to have at least some basic similarities humans share with animals - intelligence, senses, emotions, eyes... and they have none.

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dancingrobot wrote:I'm Veggie :D
I think its good if F1 drivers are vegetarian, vegan or only eat fish. Not only is it much healthier, but it is much better for the environment.
An independent study (i.e. not influenced by anyone such as the govenment) showed that 300g of beef produces the same amount of carbon emmissions as driving 200 miles in a V8 land rover discovery. If you took the mpg of a LRD to be about 15mpg. Thats 13 gallons or 60 litres of fuel.
Which would be more beneficial to an F1 team. 300g of beef for one of the drivers dinner, or 60 litres of fuel for one drivers car?
Which would be more beneficial to an independent study? Stating that 300g of beef produces the same amount of carbon emmissions as driving 200 miles in a V8 land rover or comparing those with the amount of carbon emmissions that produces this:

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PD: the vegetables painted in the truck seems to have emotions :mrgreen:
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manchild wrote: To equalize vegetables with animals, they'd need to have at least some basic similarities humans share with animals - intelligence, senses, emotions, eyes... and they have none.
Plants do sense their environment. They just don't do it "our" way. Doesn't make them any less worthwhile than animals. All food is 'murder' really. In order for you to live, something else is dying. Please don't try to hide from that fact.

The big thing is that plants aren't cute. That's the real problem. If cabbages had puppy-appeal eyes no one would eat them.

I'm a full-on meat eater. However, I try to source meat that has had a decent quality of life prior to slaughter. I'm extremely annoyed about much of commercial chicken production, for example. I've raised a couple of free-range pigs for the table and jolly tasty they were too. Same with the game birds I eat in season. Both example which had good lives prior to the plate.

One thing that really bugs me, and I mean REALLY, is people who eat meat from the supermarket and seem to pretend that it's never been alive. The number of people who accused me of being 'cruel' because I ate a pig that I'd reared was breathtaking. When I pointed out the quality of life compared to the commercial stuff they eat they usually replied "well, I couldn't kill it after feeding it". And that's the problem - people are divorced from the food they eat. And that is very, very sad.

Tonight, we had pork chops from pigs (not ours this time) that I watched grow up in a field down the road last year so I know how happy they were. We had them with potatos and veg grown in our garden. Sure I eat meat but I eat 'good' meat where possible. And it's a lot greener than most of the food that is flown / shipped around the world out of season just to keep westerners happy...
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Just_a_fan wrote:
manchild wrote: To equalize vegetables with animals, they'd need to have at least some basic similarities humans share with animals - intelligence, senses, emotions, eyes... and they have none.
Plants do sense their environment. They just don't do it "our" way. Doesn't make them any less worthwhile than animals. All food is 'murder' really. In order for you to live, something else is dying. Please don't try to hide from that fact.

The big thing is that plants aren't cute. That's the real problem. If cabbages had puppy-appeal eyes no one would eat them.

I'm a full-on meat eater. However, I try to source meat that has had a decent quality of life prior to slaughter. I'm extremely annoyed about much of commercial chicken production, for example. I've raised a couple of free-range pigs for the table and jolly tasty they were too. Same with the game birds I eat in season. Both example which had good lives prior to the plate.

One thing that really bugs me, and I mean REALLY, is people who eat meat from the supermarket and seem to pretend that it's never been alive. The number of people who accused me of being 'cruel' because I ate a pig that I'd reared was breathtaking. When I pointed out the quality of life compared to the commercial stuff they eat they usually replied "well, I couldn't kill it after feeding it". And that's the problem - people are divorced from the food they eat. And that is very, very sad.

Tonight, we had pork chops from pigs (not ours this time) that I watched grow up in a field down the road last year so I know how happy they were. We had them with potatos and veg grown in our garden. Sure I eat meat but I eat 'good' meat where possible. And it's a lot greener than most of the food that is flown / shipped around the world out of season just to keep westerners happy...
I am with you I grew up in farm country. I am really picky about what I eat. But I also recognize that animals eat other animals. I have nothing against Vegans or Veggies either its your choice. After living with a few vegans for a couple of years its much easier to have a balanced healthy diet if you eat meat.

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Just_a_fan wrote: Plants do sense their environment. They just don't do it "our" way. Doesn't make them any less worthwhile than animals. All food is 'murder' really. In order for you to live, something else is dying. Please don't try to hide from that fact.
I can't agree. Pick an apple, eat it, throw away the seed, and it will grow to another plant just as it would if it dropped from the branch all by itself. Same thing would happen if you'd digest the seed and poop on fertile soil. Name me one animal that you can eat and that it can continue life-cycle afterwards.

There also isn't any proof of intelligence within plants, as well as emotions, most of all the senses. On the other side, IQ of animals can be measured. Pigs you've mentioned, have greater IQ than 3 y.o. child.

The fear, the pain and the agony they go trough when being killed by a butcher gun, or slaughtered to meet Halal, is therefore equal to what the child of that age would feel if it was being killed.

http://www.google.com/images?as_q=3+yo+ ... es&as_st=y

Think of that for a while.

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Just a point. Nature is a cruel system. Animals kill other animals to eat, just like the two-legged relatively more intelligent animals called humans.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYbjnPvk6uE[/youtube]

think about it for awhile.

If that's not explicit enough to imagine the pain they go through, you can find lots of cute cuddly baby animals being killed by predators on youtube.

The biggest difference between us and other predators is that most of us don't actually have to slaughter our food personally.