Button doesn't deserve to be champion - Tamara Ecclestone

[Richard]

1. The Champion is the champion because he gathered the most points. That's pretty fair to me.
2. Button is the champion because he won 6 races while Barrichello could not in the early stages of the season.
3. Seriously, is this thread going anywhere? I think not...

Could this thread be merged with the other "chap-who-got-the-most-points-isn't-worthy" thread?

[kilcoo316]

Ross Brawn don't seem to be in much of a rush to hire him for 2010 anyway?

Indeed.


Do you think Ross Brawn would have let Schumacher run out of contract in a similar way?


I think that says enough about how his talents are really viewed.


Actions, not words...

[Jersey Tom]

What an absurd comment.

To be WDC, you have to score the most points. Jenson did that. End of story.

There are good cars, there are bad cars. There's good luck and poor luck. That's nothin new.

[tarzoon]

Somehow she reminded me of Barbara Bush and her comments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Bu ... commentary

[WhiteBlue]

Somehow she reminded me of Barbara Bush and her comments

Well some of Bab's comments were witty:

Commenting on the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Barbara said "Clinton lied. A man might forget where he parks or where he lives, but he never forgets oral sex, no matter how bad it is."

[PlatinumZealot]

Well it's Ms Ecclestone's opinion and I disagree and at the same time I have no problem with it. That is just what she feels, and it has to be expected people will be interested in her opinion on this issue because she is Bernie's daughter. AND.. She's a Hamilton fan too So yeah, people definitely want to hear what she has to say.

[Pandamasque]

Do not feed Tamara.

[axle]

Ross Brawn don't seem to be in much of a rush to hire him for 2010 anyway?

Indeed.
Do you think Ross Brawn would have let Schumacher run out of contract in a similar way?
I think that says enough about how his talents are really viewed.
Actions, not words...

My god do you have a downer on JB! I can't recall 1 positive comment...is he really that awful?! Anyhoo....

I actually think the delay is quite obvious and nothing to do with talent.

Money; Brawn will pay him what he wants (give or take a million) on the basis that they have secured the funds. To me this is obviously down to the tie up with Mercedes and Virgin's decisions...

If neither sponsor/partner contract is completed then Brawn can only offer JB a similar package to this year.

JB has said fine, I'll wait till you've got the other deal(s) in place and then we'll go from there.

So once the ink is dried on the other contracts JB will get the offer he's holding out for and has been promised on the above basis. It's just a matter of timing.

I really don't think their is any more to it that that. With the WDC done he drove better than RB again suddenly so I think that Rubens was only clearing up as JB was driving too safe. He'll have learnt from this year just like Lewis has learn't from his 2 WDC fights.

[Shrek]

While yes Jenson probably wouldn't have won if he wasn't in a Brawn, F1 in my mind is around 60-70% about the car, 40-30% about the driver in the mind of a team. and at the beginning of a new season with totally new rules for the car so it was anybody who could figure how to squeze out the last performance of the car and they obviously had the most time to figure it out than anybody.

[Giblet]

I have a feeling Bernie will reel her neck in, and she'll continue being an idiot.

[nipo]

The one moment I saw Tamara's comments I immediately tossed it into the rubbish bin.

NOT because the media is using her name or whether she is an insider of the sport or anything.

It is because to say Jenson is not worthy is just plain wrong.

We tend to forget things, don't we? Yes, Brawn was quite dominant at Albert Park, so they just flew away to a 1-2. But if memory serves me well then Jenson also had a few tough qualifying sessions and starts which meant that he had to perform some first lap magic to overtake one or two cars and get back in front for the win. He has done that repeatedly and his moves showed that he was very determined and he knew what he was doing.

I think that makes a very worthy world champion.

Mid-season, Ross Brawn admitted that they went the wrong way looking into the tire temp issue and wasted some effort. Red Bull and others caught up with some wins. Towards the end Jenson was obviously doing maths - but you can't blame him can you? I mean, it's easy math and I would have done the same. Call it lacklustre performance but he stood on the safe side and did enough with his equipment to finally achieve his career dream.

I am not a Jenson fan and I admit that I like Seb Vettel more. However fact is fact, Seb still needs to win a race by overtaking someone on track, not at pitstops or starting from pole. If you ask me, Jenson is the better driver this season and he has every right to win the championship. Thank God he got enough points for that.

[TRICKLE69]

She does have a very valid point.

"I don't think Jenson Button deserves to be the F1 World Champion. He has been in it such a long time and never really came close to winning a championship. Suddenly the car is good and he's won the championship. He only won six races, and they were all at the beginning of the season," Ecclestone said to Englands 'Daily Mail' newspaper.

Adding lastly, “If they'd all had the same car, then Jenson Button definitely wouldn't have won this season."

Man you have got to be kidding me. She does not know what the hell she is saying. He has not had a competitive car until this year. Who ever has the best car and uses it the best wins. No one with a bad car is going to win a championship lets be serious just look at Kimi,Alonso,Hamilton this year all champs with bad cars who could do nothing, but all brushed off there teammates just like Button.

[tarzoon]

I don't see anyone criticising James Hunt for winning a championship just because Lauda decided it was too dangerous to race.

I don't see anyone criticising Rosberg for being champion with a single win.

I don't see anyone criticising Damon Hill for losing a championship when he had a far better car.

I don't see anyone criticising Mansell, Prost (his 4th championship), Villeneuve and Hill for winning in an all conquering car.

I don't see anyone criticising Shummi or Hakkinnen for winning championships after declared team orders.


All I see is critics to Button for ONLY getting 4 pole positions, 2 fastest laps, 6 wins, 1 second place, 2 third places and 1 retirement.


get a life!

[gibells]

I don't see anyone criticising James Hunt for winning a championship just because Lauda decided it was too dangerous to race.

I don't see anyone criticising Rosberg for being champion with a single win.

I don't see anyone criticising Damon Hill for losing a championship when he had a far better car.

I don't see anyone criticising Mansell, Prost (his 4th championship), Villeneuve and Hill for winning in an all conquering car.

I don't see anyone criticising Shummi or Hakkinnen for winning championships after declared team orders.


All I see is critics to Button for ONLY getting 4 pole positions, 2 fastest laps, 6 wins, 1 second place, 2 third places and 1 retirement.


get a life!

=D> Well said.

[PNSD]

Agreed, great post.

I dont understand how this discussion goes on? He is champion, it is what it is. By the nature of the FIA regulations (even by the very nature of the sport) he is the rightful champion. How could you argue against that to say it is not deserved, or he isnt the rightful champion?