+1Pandamasque wrote:I'm very happy to see a proper 'racing man' back in F1. I'll be rooting for them next season.
I don't subscribe to these kind of after-fabrications, this is just another xample of poor judgement from BMW's side. Instead of sticking with Williams and HP, showing some patience, they had to blame somebody and ran away to Hinwil to make fools of themselves, almost wrecking the Sauber team in the process.WhiteBlue wrote:They were thinking that they would minimize their losses by the sale. Only when it became clear that Stefan GP would take the 13th slot they stopped the dithering and saved the team. It is understandable in a corporation. They saw how Brawn/Merc ripped off Honda and were determine to do better. With their backs to the wall they finally had to give in and accept a much lower price I would say.xpensive wrote:One has to wonder why BMW didn't see this, for an outsider anyway, rather obvious solution from the beginning?
The BMW board has published their explicit decision not to supply engines to F1 beyond the 2009 season. The decision was taken at the same time when the exit decision from team ownership and the non signature of the Concord agreement was published.gibells wrote:Do we assume that Sauber will be running Ferrari engines next year, or was that deal with Qadbak? Also is there any chance BMW might stay to supply Sauber for 1 more year?
And you have documentation of that decision - love to see itThe BMW board has published their explicit decision not to supply engines to F1 beyond the 2009 season. The decision was taken at the same time when the exit decision from team ownership and the non signature of the Concord agreement was published.
http://www.7-forum.com/news/Hintergr-zu ... -2900.htmlChaparral wrote:And you have documentation of that decision - love to see itThe BMW board has published their explicit decision not to supply engines to F1 beyond the 2009 season. The decision was taken at the same time when the exit decision from team ownership and the non signature of the Concord agreement was published.
Edit: English quotation here. http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-w ... -9319.htmlDie Frage, ob BMW denn in der kommenden Saison als Motorenlieferant in der Formel 1 zur Verfügung stehe, antwortete Draeger mit einem deutlichen „Nein“.
I recon that if Sauber can keep ahold of at least 3 or 4 main sponsors for 2010 he will be on course to have a highly effective team behind him. The should try and keep Intel & FXPro for their computer needs both in Hardware and Software form. BUT... With Ferarri running AMD, it may be a bit aqward. If Sauber can keep ahold of T-Systems and Petronas as well, he is very well placed for a well funded and well organised team for 2010.WhiteBlue wrote:It will be interesting to see what will happen with Intel in F1. I believe their agreement with BMW runs out at the end of this year, but perhaps Sauber can convince them to return on a reduced rate for another year.
Its already been widely reported that the team will run Ferarri engines as Peter Sauber has had the same thing that Ross Brawn & Nick Fry had last year after Hondas announcement. Luca di Montezemolo took him into a room (Haug of Mercedes and Luca Di M were in the same meeting with Brawn & Fry last year) somewhere and sat him down and told him he was getting Ferarri power and they wernt letting the team go down withouut a fighting chance.WhiteBlue wrote:The BMW board has published their explicit decision not to supply engines to F1 beyond the 2009 season. The decision was taken at the same time when the exit decision from team ownership and the non signature of the Concord agreement was published.gibells wrote:Do we assume that Sauber will be running Ferrari engines next year, or was that deal with Qadbak? Also is there any chance BMW might stay to supply Sauber for 1 more year?
If I understand the homologation right all teams are supposed to get the same product by an engine manufacturer. The way the engine integrates with the chassis may have some impact on performance and reliability.Confused_Andy wrote:Have I miss understood posts from other threads, but Ferrari powered teams (apart from the works team) get a year old engine or high mileage ones?
WhiteBlue, i think you have it correct there. All engines have to be to same spec no matter what the team. The only diffrence is that Ferarri may have a or few things that make the performance of the 056 a little better, such as installation, cooling needs and gearbox.WhiteBlue wrote:If I understand the homologation right all teams are supposed to get the same product by an engine manufacturer. The way the engine integrates with the chassis may have some impact on performance and reliability.Confused_Andy wrote:Have I miss understood posts from other threads, but Ferrari powered teams (apart from the works team) get a year old engine or high mileage ones?