Alonso's Crash

[Tim.Wright]

http://imgur.com/a/BJfWo

Check first image, wheel is pointing 90 degrees right while hes at the exit of the corner.

Maybe not 90 but its not straight by any means.

That image seems odd, the steering wheel is turned but the wheels on the car seem to be straight ahead. I know perceptive can play tricks but even so it does look odd.

I think the wheel angles are too small to see. They'd be in the range of 2-3deg at that speed.

The car seems to be cornering still judging by the roll angle of the front wing to the ground so the steering wheel angle doesn't seem strange to me.

[FrukostScones]

Could Alonso have had an epileptic seizure in the car?

The only evidence for that is opening a medical book and randomly picking medical conditions with your eyes closed.

Edit to add: Boullier responded to a question about Alonso's crash being triggered by his health/fainting etc - "Nothing you heard or say is true." That's unequivocal. http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... -all-clear

with a few 100 Mio $ at stake what should they say?

McLaren is in full damage limitation mode... and they are fueling the rumors how they act instead of containing them, but maybe that s the lesser evil for them...

[Richard]

I'm sorry that a straight forward statement from the TP wasn't enough for you.

On your logic whatever they do or say will confirm the conspiracy hysteria. Why stick with epilepsy? The same logic works for kidnapping by aliens:

• If they say nothing then that infers they refuse to deny he was kidnapped by aliens.
• If they say he was not kidnapped by aliens then that shows there is a cover up.
• If a rational person says kidnapping by aliens is ludicrous, then show me the evidence that aliens don't exist.

The dull boring reality is that yesterday was the end of the test so they'll look at the car and telemetry in their own time.

[Thefuelman]

Considering that the hospital stay has now increased to 2 days and possibly more we can say its safe to say it was an electrical shock. Rumour mill is in full swing now but I think what we saw yesterday was a driver getting a heavy electrical shock, slewing the car over to the wll to get everything shut off.
it was a slight contact with the wall, not enough to concuss a driver with a Hans device on. Strange freakish accidents happen I know (Dale Earnheart) but really this wasn't one of them. Eric Boulliers comments give a lot away aswell. The fact that Mclaren have decided to end the test early despite have not running the car near its full potential kinda tells the story of a major tech review on safety grounds.

[Ra8]

http://www.pitpass.com/53336/Alonso-to- ... her-checks

"I deny that Fernando was feeling unwell prior to the incident," said Adab. "The car had grip, there was tremendous wind and he went into the wall, the rest is speculation.

"The car telemetry has stated that he was correcting from left to right," he added. "Fernando was hitting the brake and changing gears until the moment of impact."

[Richard]

Considering that the hospital stay has now increased to 2 days and possibly more... Eric Boulliers comments give a lot away aswell.

err... Mclaren said he would be under observation for 24 hours due to concussion after a 30g crash. That's routine. How did you get to 2 days?

Also please can you quote the bit where Boullier gives away the secret of the electrical shock?

[nzjrs]

Considering that the hospital stay has now increased to 2 days and possibly more we can say its safe to say it was an electrical shock. Rumour mill is in full swing now but I think what we saw yesterday was a driver getting a heavy electrical shock, slewing the car over to the wll to get everything shut off.

Jesus. It is worse than reddit over here.

You don't contest a >15G impact. You cannot contest the medical procedures that require a trip to hospital after such an impact.

Here is my theory. He made a mistake and crashed, perhaps the wind was high, and the car was hard to drive, whatever. The crash was jarring and he was was taken to hospital, where he stays. Evidence in favour of my position

* he crashed
* Sainz crashed similarly
* the G measurement and the trip to hospital per standard operating procedure
* side impact with no deformation (geometry and photos)
* THE SPANISH HOSPITAL IS BEING CAREFUL WITH THE MOST LOVED DRIVER IN ALL OF SPAIN (common sense)
* Mclaren didnt run because there was f-all all time left and perhaps they would better spend their time preparing for the next test than panicking for what could have been no more than another hour of running

Please explain to me the logical leaps of insanity in how you arrive at a "certain electrical shock?"

[turbof1]

The way of 'reasoning' of some members in this topic is quite worrying. I wonder how long it'll take to involve 9/11 or the nazi's into this.

Alonso took a hard blow yesterday. He seems fine at first sight and scans confirm that, let's be happy in the first place, because of all that's the most important thing: that the driver is unharmed!

That the team is holding some information back for the time being, is relative clear. That's nothing out of the normal. When Bianchi crashed, it took quite a while too before we got to know the reason. It has to be clear that the team is conducting a full investigation and doesn't want to comment on the cause until they have a clear answer. However, Bouillier already gave us some more info. There's no reason to not believe him. The opposite belongs under category "conspiracy theories".

[Thunder]

Considering that the hospital stay has now increased to 2 days and possibly more we can say its safe to say it was an electrical shock..

Wow , just wow. Can you even give just one good reason to support your statement? I don't think so.
People should really calm down.

[Flanker27]

Italian media say he will stay in hospital today and maybe tomorrow, and that now he is in the intensive care unit, so not a common unit...

It seems a bit strange when compared to the >50g Kubica's impact

[diffuser]

I heard Fernando Drove the Ambulance to the hospital!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I wish him well. He's my Favourite driver.

[nzjrs]

Italian media say he will stay in hospital today and maybe tomorrow, and that now he is in the intensive care unit, so not a common unit...

Watch the most recent sky-sport report from the hospital. Intensive care units in spain (and the reasons one might stay in them) are not comparible with those in other countries or in the movies.....

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... n-hospital

To quote Rachel Brookes

He is in intensive care.... It's very differnt ot the UK, it doesn't mean he is in a serious condition, or the same sort of situation where is we have in the UK, it just means they are monitoring his vital signs and keeping a good eye on him.

There, conspiracy busted.

[Jef Patat]

I wonder how long it'll take to involve 9/11 or the nazi's into this.

Ah you've taken the fun out of it, a mod should not speed up Godwin's Law

[db__]

According to Autosport's Ben Anderson the reason for the crash was pretty mundane:

Fernando Alonso's unfortunate crash on the final morning - caused by the double world champion over-correcting a snap of oversteer after running wide on the exit of Turn 3

Obviously not as exciting as a good conspiracy but the truth rarely is.

[Del]

According to Autosport's Ben Anderson the reason for the crash was pretty mundane:

Fernando Alonso's unfortunate crash on the final morning - caused by the double world champion over-correcting a snap of oversteer after running wide on the exit of Turn 3

Obviously not as exciting as a good conspiracy but the truth rarely is.

I think that Vettel would've suggest that if he saw it,given the fact that he was right behind him,and experienced enough to recognize such a mistake. I still think that there was some mechanical failure.