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Drives can not accept situations like this one, it has been a very risky moment where Button could have been seriously injured.turbof1 wrote:That could have ended up horribly. I hope the damage on Button's car is limited. You don't want to be faced with a damaged chassis a few hours before FP2.
Oh man, sorry. I totally missed the "road" part of the sentence.turbof1 wrote:The issue does not manifest itself at the speed of road cars. Road cars having "excessive downforce" or not is quite irrelevant as normal traffic speed would not allow a drain cover to be sucked loose.Juzh wrote:Why exactly? Because of a loose drain cover being improperly secured?Shooty81 wrote:You see the reason why road cars should not have excessive downforce...![]()
Maybe you missed the discussion about road cars with downforce some time ago. I agree for usual speeds it is irrelevant. And for the speeds it becomes relevant, it becomes dangerous at the same time. So better optimize road cars for drag or for aestheticsturbof1 wrote: The issue does not manifest itself at the speed of road cars. Road cars having "excessive downforce" or not is quite irrelevant as normal traffic speed would not allow a drain cover to be sucked loose.
Well not necessarily: I did follow that topic, but not the whole of it. Anyway, if the maximum allowed speed is there let's say 50 kmh, your aerodynamics are not going to produce enough downforce to get the drain cover loose. Neither are your aerodynamics going to be relevant.Shooty81 wrote:Maybe you missed the discussion about road cars with downforce some time ago. I agree for usual speeds it is irrelevant. And for the speeds it becomes relevant, it becomes dangerous at the same time. So better optimize road cars for drag or for aestheticsturbof1 wrote: The issue does not manifest itself at the speed of road cars. Road cars having "excessive downforce" or not is quite irrelevant as normal traffic speed would not allow a drain cover to be sucked loose.
The moment sticky road tires and downforce on road cars will start sucking drain covers from the gutters, at 50km/h zones, we'll address that issue.Shooty81 wrote:Maybe you missed the discussion about road cars with downforce some time ago. I agree for usual speeds it is irrelevant. And for the speeds it becomes relevant, it becomes dangerous at the same time. So better optimize road cars for drag or for aestheticsturbof1 wrote: The issue does not manifest itself at the speed of road cars. Road cars having "excessive downforce" or not is quite irrelevant as normal traffic speed would not allow a drain cover to be sucked loose.
I think it's only the apex kerb at T15, the right-hander out of the Swimming Pool, that has changed?
The kerb now runs alongside the barrier, whereas last year it looked like this:
That kerb wasn't there in 2014. Instead, I believe the barrier ran to that point:
They also included a kerb in the inside of tabac.
The curb now hugs the barrier, the turn is distinctively more open imo.RicME85 wrote:From Autosport forum:I think it's only the apex kerb at T15, the right-hander out of the Swimming Pool, that has changed?
The kerb now runs alongside the barrier, whereas last year it looked like this:
http://s33.postimg.org/dz15s8y7j/mon15.jpg
That kerb wasn't there in 2014. Instead, I believe the barrier ran to that point:
http://s33.postimg.org/asjxuh0z3/mon14.jpgThey also included a kerb in the inside of tabac.