Sebastian Vettel secured victory at the Hungarian Grand Prix, despite car issues that hampered his pace. As others were unable to overtake, Raikkonen finished a close second, followed by Valtteri Bottas for Mercedes.
They will probably face penalties especially if they want an update. But you shouldn't laugh like that otherwise you look a bit ignorant. What he meant was that from the 4 turbo they already used they can rotate the mileages between them and use the worse for FP. That way maybe they can witstand the whole season without penalties (although I also doubt it). Indeed that is probably what they are doing because none of them is out of commission.
"Replacing a turbo, or any other component, does not necessarily mean that you're scrapping the previous one, even more so when you are allowed 'free' updates, as the regs stipulate this year.
"So as long as you don't use more than four elements for each designed PU component, you're basically free to do [swaps] at your leisure.
"What we did sits within this criteria of rotation."
...like the drive axles, did you miss that part?Big Mangalhit wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 15:05They will probably face penalties especially if they want an update. But you shouldn't laugh like that otherwise you look a bit ignorant.
Yeah, like kalinka said above, I just googled it and it seemed there was a 1 hour difference.
Again I think you are misinterpreting stuff.
This means if they now fit 2 new TC (5th and 6th) in in the FP1 and FP2 they can only use the last one of those in further events without penalties. They can still go back to the previous TC (1-4) without penalties. Even tho I admit the wording is a bit misleading, but I think Honda already reverted back to some previous components after taking some penalties. Not sure."During any single event, if a driver introduces more than one of a power unit element that is subject to penalty, only the last element fitted may be used at subsequent events without further penalty," said an FIA statement issued in the wake of Wednesday's WMSC meeting in Paris.
"This is to prevent the stockpiling of spare power unit elements."
If they're introducing a new element though it's because they can't salvage the old ones, so it becomes a circular argument. Additionally there's always a penalty with each new element. I was pretty sure when reading the updated rules last year that they specifically mentioned any new elements would need to be used as the current race element, and that multiple new elements would be allowed only for practice sessions. Perhaps as you say it doesn't include the original four.Big Mangalhit wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 17:37Again I think you are misinterpreting stuff.
This means if they now fit 2 new TC (5th and 6th) in in the FP1 and FP2 they can only use the last one of those in further events without penalties. They can still go back to the previous TC (1-4) without penalties. Even tho I admit the wording is a bit misleading, but I think Honda already reverted back to some previous components after taking some penalties. Not sure."During any single event, if a driver introduces more than one of a power unit element that is subject to penalty, only the last element fitted may be used at subsequent events without further penalty," said an FIA statement issued in the wake of Wednesday's WMSC meeting in Paris.
"This is to prevent the stockpiling of spare power unit elements."
The regulation was reworded after Mercedes changed Hamilton's engine twice in one weekend, essentially stockpiling brand new engines so he'd have enough for the remainder of the season without taking further penalties. So whatever they did; you can't do that again.TAG wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 18:34If they're introducing a new element though it's because they can't salvage the old ones, so it becomes a circular argument. Additionally there's always a penalty with each new element. I was pretty sure when reading the updated rules last year that they specifically mentioned any new elements would need to be used as the current race element, and that multiple new elements would be allowed only for practice sessions. Perhaps as you say it doesn't include the original four.
Mercedes wasn't the only one, if Memory serves McLaren did it in 2015 as well. I think Ferrari might have also done it once in 2015.ChrisDanger wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 20:40
The regulation was reworded after Mercedes changed Hamilton's engine twice in one weekend, essentially stockpiling brand new engines so he'd have enough for the remainder of the season without taking further penalties.
Indeed.TAG wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 18:34If they're introducing a new element though it's because they can't salvage the old ones, so it becomes a circular argument. Additionally there's always a penalty with each new element. I was pretty sure when reading the updated rules last year that they specifically mentioned any new elements would need to be used as the current race element, and that multiple new elements would be allowed only for practice sessions. Perhaps as you say it doesn't include the original four.Big Mangalhit wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 17:37Again I think you are misinterpreting stuff.
This means if they now fit 2 new TC (5th and 6th) in in the FP1 and FP2 they can only use the last one of those in further events without penalties. They can still go back to the previous TC (1-4) without penalties. Even tho I admit the wording is a bit misleading, but I think Honda already reverted back to some previous components after taking some penalties. Not sure."During any single event, if a driver introduces more than one of a power unit element that is subject to penalty, only the last element fitted may be used at subsequent events without further penalty," said an FIA statement issued in the wake of Wednesday's WMSC meeting in Paris.
"This is to prevent the stockpiling of spare power unit elements."
Are you saying they only changed the regulation when it Hamilton did it?dans79 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 20:59Mercedes wasn't the only one, if Memory serves McLaren did it in 2015 as well. I think Ferrari might have also done it once in 2015.ChrisDanger wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 20:40
The regulation was reworded after Mercedes changed Hamilton's engine twice in one weekend, essentially stockpiling brand new engines so he'd have enough for the remainder of the season without taking further penalties.
Not entirely truth. Very often teams introduce new elements because the old ones lose performance although they still work, especially detuned. So they can still use a bit older parts in races where engine performance isn't vital. Like here.
