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As the discussion on the presumed use of the livery on the Ferrari Formula 1 car as subliminal advertising for Philip Morris products continues to be a hot topic the Scuderia Ferrari has decided to modify their livery starting with the Spanish GP.
I did and exactly the same answer applies.andrew wrote:Try reading the post by Vall above my last.
Without knowing the exact details of the possible agreement between Ferrari and Marlboro there is no point jumping to conclusions to support individual adgendas (i.e. mindless Ferrari bashing at every opportunity or Ferrari support).autogyro wrote:An awfull lot of posts to say nothing Andrew.
Ferrari receives money from the proceeds of smoking nicotene.
This is sponsorship and is illegal.
Your turn.
There is no room for logic in a thread like this. Cant you see this is a bash the FOTA, BIg tobaco, and red cars thread.Sean H wrote:So I would assume that all of you guys were equally upset when for decades tobacco companies sponsored F1?
I am not an attorney, but I do employ a few, I would imagine that it wouldn't be hard to prove that the car or team is not sponsored by or advertising for Marlboro. Remeber, common sense is rarely used inside a courtroom.
I also read that the Marlboro deal was basically a VIP/Executive package allowing them access to Ferrari and entertain their execs/guests. That could easily be used in court as the reason for the money.
I don't know how the exact law reads (anybody have a link?), but in the states you simply can not advertise the tobacco product, there is no law against contributions (to politicians, race teams, concerts, car shows, etc).
I guess all politicians who take tobacco lobby money should be fined as well?
Once again, why not solve the real problem, the product. If people were serious about all this the product would simply be banned. I don't smoke, nor would I ever, I am to smart for that. I don't need a race car to tell me to smoke or a govt to tell me not to smoke, yet as long as the product is legal, I see the ban on advertising it silly.
Do you have inside knowledge of Ferrari's agreement with Marlboro or are you just guessing?autogyro wrote:Ferrari receiving money from tobacco profits is against the law.
It will not matter a jot andrew. Now the public know they will not let go until the money gets taken by the courts.andrew wrote:Do you have inside knowledge of Ferrari's agreement with Marlboro or are you just guessing?autogyro wrote:Ferrari receiving money from tobacco profits is against the law.
Given the amount of cash and the parties involved I would expect that some top lawyers have made sure that there is nothing illeagal in the agreement. It'll be all in the wording.
Well if you know the background provide details otherwise there is not point saying you know the background.autogyro wrote:It will not matter a jot andrew. Now the public know they will not let go until the money gets taken by the courts.andrew wrote:Do you have inside knowledge of Ferrari's agreement with Marlboro or are you just guessing?autogyro wrote:Ferrari receiving money from tobacco profits is against the law.
Given the amount of cash and the parties involved I would expect that some top lawyers have made sure that there is nothing illeagal in the agreement. It'll be all in the wording.
Ferrari can thank Montezemolo for this.
Oh and some of us do know more about the background to this than others Tiffo.
