Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

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Motorsport.com:
By: Charles Bradley, Editor-in-Chief
Posted: Yesterday at 9:17am
Jenson Button believes that McLaren made a major step forward with the understanding of its MP4-30’s front wing just before he was forced to retire from Sunday’s Malaysian Grand Prix.

Button made a radical front wing angle change to the car ahead of his last stint, just before his Honda engine’s turbo expired, and said the handling of the chassis was transformed.

“It was quite useful to work out the front wing angle, because running quite a lot of front wing is unusual for a McLaren, so we finally worked it out in the last stint, so we’re happy with that learning,” said Button.

McLaren’s front wing concept is vastly different this season, thanks to the arrival of aerodynamics ace Peter Prodromou from Red Bull.

It now features many more wing elements, but the lack of running after a troubled pre-season test programme has hampered its development.

A big step forward

Button claims the change allowed him to catch the cars in front, and believes the understanding will move McLaren closer to the teams in front.

“Closing on the pack in front in that last stint was quite a lot of fun,” said Button, who remarked as much over the team radio at the time. “You could see where our strengths and weaknesses are.

“I think it’s quite apparent compared to the Force India, but then we could also compare ourselves to the Sauber and even some of the quicker cars like the Lotus, which was quite interesting.

“Useful day, just a pity we both ended up finishing early."
Interesting reading :D

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Is the MP4-30 faster than the MP4-29?

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At the moment I don't think so, but it will be once the PU doesn't have problems anymore.

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captainmorgan wrote:Is the MP4-30 faster than the MP4-29?
2015 Q--Jenson Button McLaren/Honda 1m41.635s
2014 FP2-- J. Button McLaren 01:40.628

-other sessions in 2014 were wet
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ajnšpric_pumpa wrote:
captainmorgan wrote:Is the MP4-30 faster than the MP4-29?
2015 Q--Jenson Button McLaren/Honda 1m41.635s
2014 FP2-- J. Button McLaren 01:40.628

-other sessions in 2014 were wet
That's not a good base for comparison, as we have changes in the tires compound. Early in the pre-season tests this year the teams were definitely faster. Moreover, it is visible that the PU of MP4-30 does not run in full power, so it's really early to tell.

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Alonso for spanish media; we were 3 digits down on horsepower.

What is 100HP in lap time,CCA?
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ajnšpric_pumpa wrote:Alonso for spanish media; we were 3 digits down on horsepower.

What is 100HP in lap time,CCA?
Is it about the same amount of time as Alonso claimed to bring in 2007. (Just teasing there)

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ajnšpric_pumpa wrote:Alonso for spanish media; we were 3 digits down on horsepower.

What is 100HP in lap time,CCA?
It's hard to make a generic statement like that. If you get 100 HP more, you just might find out you can't apply it to the ground(wheel spin). If you can , then what it would mean in Monaco would be completely different than what it would be in Shanghai.

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Looking at Shanghai weather forcast. Looks like average day time temp this time of the year is 19C. While long range forcast is calling for an average temp of 12C and 30% chance of precipitation for race weekend.


I suspect that will allow McHonda to uncork some ERS power.

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diffuser wrote:
ajnšpric_pumpa wrote:Alonso for spanish media; we were 3 digits down on horsepower.

What is 100HP in lap time,CCA?
It's hard to make a generic statement like that. If you get 100 HP more, you just might find out you can't apply it to the ground(wheel spin). If you can , then what it would mean in Monaco would be completely different than what it would be in Shanghai.
I understand that,but this is why i wrote CCA.....is it around 1 sec 2,or 5?

EDIT: Here is some HP to lap time numbers http://m.bbc.com/sport/formula1/31942251
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Interesting look at the changes in the MP4-30 over the 29.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... 10736.html

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ajnšpric_pumpa wrote:Alonso for spanish media; we were 3 digits down on horsepower.

What is 100HP in lap time,CCA?
According to Andrew Benson at BBC http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/31942251

1bhp is worth approximately 0.016s

100bhp = 1.6s

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Jenson Button McLaren-Honda 1:46.056 at 38°lap
Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:42.062 at 43° lap

Diff = 3.994 sec

This means that they were at least with 200BHP less and we could presume that the chasiss is slow by 7 tenths. When Honda sorts out the problems McLaren will be batteling for the top 6.

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Fastest lap mean nothing, and Rosberg was with the medium tyres. He was one second faster than the next fastest lap.