Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

[frosty125]

Does anyone know how those ratings work?

For the cornering one it is.

Cornering ratings are calculated by averaging the latitudinal (side-to-side) g-forces acting on a car in each and every corner across a Grand Prix. The reason g-force data is used to assess cornering performance is because the faster a car negotiates a bend, the higher the g-force acting upon it. Therefore a higher score in this category suggests a driver is cornering harder.

[PlatinumZealot]

So mclarens have very good high speed cornering ability. Too bad they are so slow entering and exiting slow corners.

[ian_s]

i'm dubious about these driver ratings. take the cornering one for instance, just because they generate the most G's, doesn't mean that is the fastest way through a corner. it could be that a lower, but more consistent G level could be faster.

[henra]

i'm dubious about these driver ratings. take the cornering one for instance, just because they generate the most G's, doesn't mean that is the fastest way through a corner. it could be that a lower, but more consistent G level could be faster.

Exactly.
If you are Power limited a more rounded style, carrying more speed through a corner is usually a way to mitigate the deficit somewhat. If you have enough power straightening the car earlier and being able to accelerate earlier is usually faster but delivers less max G.
So, good cornering can also simply be an indication of an attempt to mitigate lacking power and/or tration.
Knowing that ERS and Overall power output in the McLaren doesn't seem to be top notch yet, this seems quite in line with the above assumption. We will only know if they have a DF advantage once they are up with Merc/Ferrari on Engine output if they then still retain this cornering performance.

[henra]

i'm dubious about these driver ratings. take the cornering one for instance, just because they generate the most G's, doesn't mean that is the fastest way through a corner. it could be that a lower, but more consistent G level could be faster.

Exactly.
If you are Power limited a more rounded style, carrying more speed through a corner is usually a way to mitigate the deficit somewhat. If you have enough power straightening the car earlier and being able to accelerate earlier is usually faster but delivers less max G.
So, good cornering can also simply be an indication of an attempt to mitigate lacking power and/or tration.
Knowing that ERS and Overall power output in the McLaren doesn't seem to be top notch yet, this seems quite in line with the above assumption. We will only know if they have a DF advantage once they are up with Merc/Ferrari on Engine output if they then still retain this cornering performance.

[RZS10]

Does anyone know how those ratings work?

For the cornering one it is.

Cornering ratings are calculated by averaging the latitudinal (side-to-side) g-forces acting on a car in each and every corner across a Grand Prix. The reason g-force data is used to assess cornering performance is because the faster a car negotiates a bend, the higher the g-force acting upon it. Therefore a higher score in this category suggests a driver is cornering harder.

what about the rest?
throttle? how early out of the corner they apply it?
steering?
braking?
aggression?


or are some just subjective?

[Lazy]

i'm dubious about these driver ratings. take the cornering one for instance, just because they generate the most G's, doesn't mean that is the fastest way through a corner. it could be that a lower, but more consistent G level could be faster.

Exactly.
If you are Power limited a more rounded style, carrying more speed through a corner is usually a way to mitigate the deficit somewhat. If you have enough power straightening the car earlier and being able to accelerate earlier is usually faster but delivers less max G.
So, good cornering can also simply be an indication of an attempt to mitigate lacking power and/or tration.
Knowing that ERS and Overall power output in the McLaren doesn't seem to be top notch yet, this seems quite in line with the above assumption. We will only know if they have a DF advantage once they are up with Merc/Ferrari on Engine output if they then still retain this cornering performance.

I think it's average g not peak.
Point a to point b should give best cornering regardless of style unless somebody had a peak g that was so short the sensors missed it, seems very unlikely though.

[Silent Storm]

Does anyone know how those ratings work?

For the cornering one it is.

Cornering ratings are calculated by averaging the latitudinal (side-to-side) g-forces acting on a car in each and every corner across a Grand Prix. The reason g-force data is used to assess cornering performance is because the faster a car negotiates a bend, the higher the g-force acting upon it. Therefore a higher score in this category suggests a driver is cornering harder.

what about the rest?
throttle? how early out of the corner they apply it?
steering?
braking?
aggression?


or are some just subjective?

Saw this on twitter..
https://twitter.com/gianlu_dale/status/ ... 1043204097

[PlatinumZealot]

That tweet is vague. The f1 site says steering is the number of steering inputs per corner. Notice Jenson has a low rating as his style is a smooth minimal input on the steering wheel.

[Silent Storm]

That tweet is vague. The f1 site says steering is the number of steering inputs per corner. Notice Jenson has a low rating as his style is a smooth minimal input on the steering wheel.

I thought that too. Posted it anyway. But what about braking and throttle? Does it mean the one smoothest on throttle or brake has a lower rating.

[acosmichippo]

i'm dubious about these driver ratings. take the cornering one for instance, just because they generate the most G's, doesn't mean that is the fastest way through a corner. it could be that a lower, but more consistent G level could be faster.

but higher G DOES mean they're using more grip, regardless if the line is the fastest or not. That means cars with consistently higher g loads in corners SHOULD have more grip than others. if you view it this way as a property of the car, and not the driver, it makes way more sense in my opinion.

That being said, this stat is heavily impacted by tire/race strategy and traffic. A car trying to do a two stop is naturally going to be cornering less severely than a car going for a three or four stop strategy. Also, if a car gets stuck behind a train of other slower cars, its g-loads will be much less for that period. For these reasons, I'd rather see this cornering stat for *Qualifying* where all drivers are trying to extract the most over one lap.

[PlatinumZealot]

That tweet is vague. The f1 site says steering is the number of steering inputs per corner. Notice Jenson has a low rating as his style is a smooth minimal input on the steering wheel.

I thought that too. Posted it anyway. But what about braking and throttle? Does it mean the one smoothest on throttle or brake has a lower rating.

Sorry. I only saw te explanantion for braking and cornering at the time. I am not sure when or if they published the explanation for the other parameters.

[Silent Storm]

That tweet is vague. The f1 site says steering is the number of steering inputs per corner. Notice Jenson has a low rating as his style is a smooth minimal input on the steering wheel.

I thought that too. Posted it anyway. But what about braking and throttle? Does it mean the one smoothest on throttle or brake has a lower rating.

Sorry. I only saw te explanantion for braking and cornering at the time. I am not sure when or if they published the explanation for the other parameters.

No worries mate. Maybe the guy who posted it on twitter made it up as the explanation for throttle does not make sense to me.

[McMrocks]

I think those ratings are a gadget to get you to buy the premium subscription. It's not in the least scientific.

[Gianlu27]

That tweet is vague. The f1 site says steering is the number of steering inputs per corner. Notice Jenson has a low rating as his style is a smooth minimal input on the steering wheel.

It was my tweet hahaha

If you are able to translate turkey http://www.trf1.net/formula1_haberler/1 ... blosu.html...