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Jep good point! That is possible! Nice trick from Mclaren!raymondu999 wrote:Sam Michael is already there - he'd probably bring some insight on the device
Is there really space for something radical like the things discussed here?LONDON: McLaren's Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton hope, and expect, to be fast from the first lap of next season's Formula One world championship in a bid to stop Sebastian Vettel and Red Bull reeling off a hat-trick of title triumphs.
The title-winning duo of 2008 and 2009 will fly into Sao Paulo for next weekend's season-ending Brazilian Grand Prix hoping, also, to end 2011 in a blaze of glory, but their real goal is to take over at the top again next year.
And this week the British pairing received a boost to their ambitions when McLaren's team chiefs stressed that it was vital for them to begin the new season as they were ending the old.
Hamilton won last weekend's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix to record this third win of the year while Button has only failed to finish in a podium position once in the last eight races.
This run of consistency and speed has left the team happy with their developments, but frustrated at being unable to mount a serious bid to stop Vettel and Red Bull's march to glory.
As a result, McLaren have made clear that their focus is on starting the next season much faster than they have done recent ones.
Racing chief Jonathan Neale said: "We need to start next year quick. We're showing that we can out-develop and stay close to everybody.
"We've consistently won races, we're consistently on the podium, but we don't win championships enough and that's a frustration."
The team believe their 2012 hopes depend on their ability to design a car which is fast from the outset.
Struggles in pre-season testing this year highlighted a clear disparity between McLaren's MP4-26 and Red Bull's RB7, but McLaren steadily reduced that deficit as the season progressed.
Neale added: "We love winning races, but we want to win some more championships. We've got to get out of the blocks."
He explained that only six percent of the 2011 car will be re-used in the design for the 2012 machine.
Neale said: "We're running a high-speed research and development organisation, but it's up to us to give the drivers something they can really get hold of and exploit.
"And I think Lewis and Jenson, as back- to- back word champions, deserve the best. So that's a clear target."
Team chief Martin Whitmarsh said: "It really is a team effort. There are hundreds of people here who enjoy these victories and contribute to them. Great drivers need great cars and that's what we are here to develop and supply for them."
Evolution key to Red Bull's success - Hamilton
... In that same design it's just evolved, so it's got better and better and better. We had a terrible car in 2009 and we scrapped that car. We built a new car in 2010 and we scrapped that car. We built a new car in 2011 and I think we're going to have a similar car for next year so it should be closer.
... He also admitted that McLaren has become too dependent on its exhaust-blown diffuser for downforce and that it would have to increase the overall downforce before next year when the FIA will effectively outlaw the technology.
"I think if we all took our exhausts away you would see the Red Bull remain at the top and the others lose a lot more," Hamilton said. "Talking about the fundamentals of my car, it's not as if I'm massively happy with it. I think as a team we know that we need to improve it and that's what we're working on. We're working on the basic downforce rather than what's coming out of the exhaust."
and now there scrapping 94% of the 2011 car.Javert wrote:The team believe their 2012 hopes depend on their ability to design a car which is fast from the outset.
Struggles in pre-season testing this year highlighted a clear disparity between McLaren's MP4-26 and Red Bull's RB7, but McLaren steadily reduced that deficit as the season progressed.
Neale added: "We love winning races, but we want to win some more championships. We've got to get out of the blocks."In that same design it's just evolved, so it's got better and better and better. We had a terrible car in 2009 and we scrapped that car. We built a new car in 2010 and we scrapped that car.
94% of the parts not being the same, and not being based on the same design idea/being an evolution are entirely compatible ideas.astracrazy wrote:and now there scrapping 94% of the 2011 car.
Is there not a recurring patten here....
Well I'll be damned...shelly wrote:I am not referring to the mirrors. I think there is one of the four crash structures inside the sidepod lip.
Little more conservative approach?“I think we had a shocking winter [last year]; it was probably one of the worst winters we’ve had,” Whitmarsh said.
“The fact is we were no where near competitive and had not done a race distance before we finished the Australian Grand Prix, and that’s not how you should be able to start a season.
“I think we’ve taken some decisions; hopefully we’ve taken some learning from that.
“And it’s a balance – we were taking some non-productive risks in my opinion last year and it’s easy for me in hindsight to step back, and I got reasonably involved myself at the end of it.
“But we’ve got some very clever, creative people, if I go around saying ‘don’t take risk’ I think I’d be stifling to people who are much cleverer than me and much more creative and inventive.
“The problem is we like to be clever, we like to be inventive, the bit of the risk is part of what we’re in this sport for. So it’s an interesting balance but I think at the moment inevitably when you’re reviewing what’s going on you say ‘yeah, that’s good, that’s good – hold on guys that’s got shades of what I’ve seen before, we’re not doing that are we?’
sounds like bold approach to me, what is the source?Javert wrote:Little more conservative approach?“I think we had a shocking winter [last year]; it was probably one of the worst winters we’ve had,” Whitmarsh said.
“The fact is we were no where near competitive and had not done a race distance before we finished the Australian Grand Prix, and that’s not how you should be able to start a season.
“I think we’ve taken some decisions; hopefully we’ve taken some learning from that.
“And it’s a balance – we were taking some non-productive risks in my opinion last year and it’s easy for me in hindsight to step back, and I got reasonably involved myself at the end of it.
“But we’ve got some very clever, creative people, if I go around saying ‘don’t take risk’ I think I’d be stifling to people who are much cleverer than me and much more creative and inventive.
“The problem is we like to be clever, we like to be inventive, the bit of the risk is part of what we’re in this sport for. So it’s an interesting balance but I think at the moment inevitably when you’re reviewing what’s going on you say ‘yeah, that’s good, that’s good – hold on guys that’s got shades of what I’ve seen before, we’re not doing that are we?’