Brazilian GP 2011 - Interlagos

[raymondu999]

amazingly, even now, Mark has less than 2/3 Vettel's points...

[Traction]

How many people buy the "problematic gearbox" story of Vettel's car?
The result tells us that Webber, by taking this win he also got the 3rd place in driver's championship.

If Mark Webber knows it was planned I am sure he will be embarrassed...although I suppose it is the definition of teamwork....

[DRCorsa]

Ferrari was blamed in the past for "immoral" team commands.
RedBull plays this games better than them actually.

[Giblet]

There is no proof of wrong doing.

Lets not sling mud based on assumptions until we actually get some news if it is true.

[ringo]

amazingly, even now, Mark has less than 2/3 Vettel's points...

Isn't that even necessary?
Mark beat the cogs out of Vettel.

Man of the race goes to Sutil for me.

Everything else was pretty much predictable. Alonso was punching above his weight in the ferrari, no way was he going to finish on the podium when he went onto the hard tyre.
Hamilton took the element of surprise out of the race in the first stint. Gained on Button but fell back due to gearbox problems. After that it was all downhill in terms of excitement.

Best moments were sutil rosberg battle and shumacher senna. A few others as well, but mostly in the midfield.

Typical boring Brazilian GP once no rain falls.

[raymondu999]

@Giblet - we're not saying it was wrong, we're saying it was fake. Team orders remember are now legal.

[ringo]

There is no proof of wrong doing.

Lets not sling mud based on assumptions until we actually get some news if it is true.

Exactly. Redbull did the right thing. Why let Vettel's slow pace destroy webber's?
we could see near the end that Button could have got vettel out.

There was nothing fake about Webber passing. Vettel did what he had to do, and he did it respectably for the viewers' sake.

[DRCorsa]

@Giblet - we're not saying it was wrong, we're saying it was fake. Team orders remember are now legal.

Team orders are legal, but...

"- The article forbidding team orders (39.1) is deleted. Teams will be reminded that any actions liable to bring the sport into disrepute are dealt with under Article 151c of the International Sporting Code and any other relevant provisions"

Anyway, we could learn the truth if only Ferrari asks FIA to investigate whether there was a problem in Vette's gearbox or not.

[raymondu999]

Ringo - the issue at hand is not whether or not Seb should have let Mark past. Once the lap times were slower then of course he should have let Webber past. Plain and simple. But the issue at hand is whether or not the gearbox issue was real - or was it manufactured

[Traction]

amazingly, even now, Mark has less than 2/3 Vettel's points...

Isn't that even necessary?
Mark beat the cogs out of Vettel. .

he sure did Ringo...he suuuure did.....

[Giblet]

@Giblet - we're not saying it was wrong, we're saying it was fake. Team orders remember are now legal.

Im saying there is no proof so why go off on a conspiracy theory?

Not everything is cloak and dagger.

A gearbox issue is not such a big deal, they happen, and until there is evidence of wrong doing, there is little point on making stuff up.

[ringo]

Redbull said there was no oil left in vettel's gearbox. That should remove any doubts.

[Traction]

Ringo - the issue at hand is not whether or not Seb should have let Mark past. Once the lap times were slower then of course he should have let Webber past. Plain and simple. But the issue at hand is whether or not the gearbox issue was real - or was it manufactured

What is your take on the situation...real or manufactured?

[DRCorsa]

Redbull said there was no oil left in vettel's gearbox. That should remove any doubts.

And i can tell you that last night i was drinking a vodka on Mars. You will not believe me until i prove it.

[ringo]

amazingly, even now, Mark has less than 2/3 Vettel's points...

Isn't that even necessary?
Mark beat the cogs out of Vettel. .

he sure did Ringo...he suuuure did.....

Kapow!! rocked vettel's socks every brazil race.

Any way, we saw today that when Redbull put their support behind mark; in terms of pitstop quality and radio feedback, he's just as fast as vettel, and he can really make the redbull run like it's supposed to.
It's only when the team give vettel 90% of the attention does Mark underperform in his RB7.
This treatment could explain the discrepancy between both cars this season. Vettel's car always seems to have that little extra this season.
As soon as vettel is out of the way, Webber performs.