Double Points @ Final Race

[CHT]

If the double point system was applied to all previous F1 seasons, how will that affect the list of past F1 champions?

2003 - Raikkonen
2008 - Massa
2012 - Alonso

Can't think of others off the top of my head.

Autosports just did a list. I think whoever going to win the next WDC with the double point advantage will most likely to get lots of negative press.

1953
Real points: 1 Ascari, 34.5; 2 Fangio, 28; 3 Farina, 26
Revised points: 1 Fangio, 37; 2 Ascari 34.5; 3 Farina, 32

1956
Real points: 1 Fangio, 30; 2 Moss, 27
Revised points: 1 Moss, 36; 2 Fangio, 32

1958
Real points: 1 Hawthorn, 42; 2 Moss, 41
Revised points: 1 Moss, 50; 2 Hawthorn, 48

1970
Real points: 1 Rindt, 45; 2 Ickx, 40
Revised points: 1 Ickx, 49; 2 Rindt, 45

1979
Real points: 1 Scheckter, 51; 2 Villeneuve, 47
Revised points: 1 Villeneuve 56; 2 Scheckter, 51

1981
Real points: 1 Piquet, 50; 2 Reutemann, 49; 3 Jones, 46
Revised points: 1 Jones, 55; 2 Piquet, 52; 3 Reutemann, 49

1984
Real points: 1 Lauda, 72; 2 Prost, 71.5
Revised points: 1 Prost 80.5; 2 Lauda, 78

2003
Real points: 1 Schumacher, 93; 2 Raikkonen, 91
Revised points: 1 Raikkonen, 99; 2 Schumacher 94

2008
Real points: 1 Hamilton, 98; 2 Massa, 97
Revised points: 1 Massa, 107; 2 Hamilton 102

2012
Real points: 1 Vettel, 281; 2 Alonso, 278
Revised points: 1 Alonso, 296; 2 Vettel, 289

[mikeerfol]

If the double point system was applied to all previous F1 seasons, how will that affect the list of past F1 champions?

From a comment in F1fanatic

Fangio would lose the 1956 title, but gain the 1953 tile, leaving him with five
Ascari would only be a single instead of a double champion
Hawthorn would lose is one title
Moss would be a (deserved) double champion
Ickx would be champion over Rindt, though I doubt he’d be very happy with it
Gilles Villeneuve would be champion
Scheckter would not
Jones would be a double champion
Piquet would be a double champion instead of a triple
Lauda would be a double champion instead of a triple
Prost would have five titles instead of four
Schumacher would lose one giving him six
Raikkonen would be a double champion
Alonso would be a triple champion
Hamilton would not be a champion
Massa would be

[timbo]

Autosports just did a list. I think whoever going to win the next WDC with the double point advantage will most likely to get lots of negative press.

1953
Real points: 1 Ascari, 34.5; 2 Fangio, 28; 3 Farina, 26
Revised points: 1 Fangio, 37; 2 Ascari 34.5; 3 Farina, 32

1956
Real points: 1 Fangio, 30; 2 Moss, 27
Revised points: 1 Moss, 36; 2 Fangio, 32

1958
Real points: 1 Hawthorn, 42; 2 Moss, 41
Revised points: 1 Moss, 50; 2 Hawthorn, 48

1970
Real points: 1 Rindt, 45; 2 Ickx, 40
Revised points: 1 Ickx, 49; 2 Rindt, 45

1979
Real points: 1 Scheckter, 51; 2 Villeneuve, 47
Revised points: 1 Villeneuve 56; 2 Scheckter, 51

1981
Real points: 1 Piquet, 50; 2 Reutemann, 49; 3 Jones, 46
Revised points: 1 Jones, 55; 2 Piquet, 52; 3 Reutemann, 49

1984
Real points: 1 Lauda, 72; 2 Prost, 71.5
Revised points: 1 Prost 80.5; 2 Lauda, 78

2003
Real points: 1 Schumacher, 93; 2 Raikkonen, 91
Revised points: 1 Raikkonen, 99; 2 Schumacher 94

2008
Real points: 1 Hamilton, 98; 2 Massa, 97
Revised points: 1 Massa, 107; 2 Hamilton 102

2012
Real points: 1 Vettel, 281; 2 Alonso, 278
Revised points: 1 Alonso, 296; 2 Vettel, 289

Actually, these stats are interesting but are irrelevant given the presented motivation for a rule change.
What I'd like to know is the number of season where champion was decided at penultimate race. From 1993 I counted only 2 (or 3 if 2006 is included). There were also 1990 and 1991 seasons, when that happened, I can't remember more without looking up stats.

[CHT]

Motivation is of course due to Abu dhabi money. It's no coincidence that Abu dhabi has gotten the right to host the final race in 2014.

[donskar]

Earlier in this thread I referred to the fear expressed by Infiniti's marketing chief that Vettel's domination would make F1 a less effective marketing tool. You can read about it yourself in the current issue of MotorSport.

[timbo]

Motivation is of course due to Abu dhabi money. It's no coincidence that Abu dhabi has gotten the right to host the final race in 2014.

Well, yeah. But in arguing it's better stay at what written in black-n-white.

Earlier in this thread I referred to the fear expressed by Infiniti's marketing chief that Vettel's domination would make F1 a less effective marketing tool. You can read about it yourself in the current issue of MotorSport.

Yes, but the rule does nothing about that. So Vettel would win champ in Japan instead of India. Big change...

[adrianchl]

Here's what Lotus think about rules:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbMxMdJCYAERKfd.jpg:large

17. Any driver who met all the creteria listed above in the same season, will deservs automatically, regardless of the number of points earned so far, the world drivers championship. The season will be stoped automatically at that moment.

Regards,

[bauc]

Ted from SkySports said that still there is a chance that this (duble points) rule is not set in stone if there is huge backlash and disagreement.....so there is still hope.

[timbo]

By the way, in 2005, the championship would have been decided in the final race with double points for the last race. Before the last race, Alonso 123 points, and Raikkonen was only 19 points behind, with 104 points.

Good catch, I excluded that year but haven't noticed that Raikkonen gained points before the last race.

[mkable1370]

Here's what Lotus think about rules:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbMxMdJCYAERKfd.jpg:large

Absolutely Excellent.

[turbof1]

A petition has been started. Although it probably won't do a thing towards the FIA, I encourage to try anyway and who knows...
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/formula1

[Shrieker]

Here's what Lotus think about rules:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbMxMdJCYAERKfd.jpg:large

Sooo... According to that, Hamilton has to start from the back - half of the season, AND race with a lego car ?

Seems legit.

[gray41]

They must be seriously worried by the pace of next season Mercedes based on that.

[xpensive]

Here's what Lotus think about rules:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbMxMdJCYAERKfd.jpg:large

No 11 might actually make some serious sense...duly note the xpression "might" in the context.

[Bredd]

That proposal needs a quick reality check -how many times has the person with the most poles not been the WDC?

Hamilton would have won 3 times (07,08,12) to his 1 championship so not always.