World Cup Football

Monstrobolaxa · Post 01 Jul 2006, 20:40

Principessa wrote: I'm not really a Portugal fan either, but I'm happy that they go on.

Then it that case....I don't like you Principessa!

miqi23 · Post 01 Jul 2006, 20:43

To be honest it was a fair competition and the best team won.

That Portugal player's bollocks is going to hurt tonight!

Monstrobolaxa · Post 01 Jul 2006, 21:06

miqi23 wrote: That Portugal player's bollocks is going to hurt tonight!

You can say that again!

Just mentioned on tv...those were the first penalties saved by Ricardo since Euro 2004! 2 years without 1 save...and in a single day....3 times! hehe

Spencifer_Murphy · Post 01 Jul 2006, 21:35

Absolutely gutted...Penalties again...typical

Ah well, they didnt go down without a fight.

With regards your comment about Rooney Principessa do you really think the stamp was deliberate? Seriously? watching the replays he had two defenders pressurising him, he fell and his foot caught the portugese player in a rather unfortunate place. It was quite cearly an accident.

BUT I believe the ref was only going to show Rooney a yellow card, but when he pushed Christiano Ronaldo, I think in the ref's eyes that was a second bookable offense so it then became a red. And fair enough I'll agree Rooney shouldn't have pushed C.Ronaldo.

HOWEVER, seeing as u called some of our players "pigs" you can include C.Ronaldo in that list also. On a moral ground what's he trying to get his club teammate sent off for (after laughing and smiling together while walking out onto the pitch) but on a more formal basis many time we have seen (over here anyway) footage of C.Ronaldo smiling and winking at Rooney after the red card had been brandished. THEN as if that wasn't bad enough walks over to Rooney, whispers something in his ear, and as he raises his head he gently "head-butted" Wayne Rooney. (I use the word headbutted loosy as it wasnt very violent, but still a deliberate move to taunt Rooney.)

So if we're gonna talk about pigs go ahead, but don't be so near-sighted as to absolved C.Ronaldo from all blame. If you believe Rooney's "move" was deliberate that's your choice, but if that is the case C.Ronaldo is JUST as bad for taunting and "headbutting" (again the term is uses loosely as i cannot think of a better term to describe it).

With regards to the rest of the competition. Go Brazil, go France and Go portugal (yes go portugal) I love watching Portugal play football, like Brazil they are a joy to watch, with the exception of C.Ronaldo who I've always thought was a bit too greedy and selfish, very up his own arse, a matter strengthened by his display today.

So Go Portugal! (Except the stuck up little one-trick-wonder who thyink's he's as good as his surname suggests)

Oh and Go Brazil & France too! This should now be a very interesting Worlc Cup to watch (besides I don't need to worry about being knocked-out now...we already have been!

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Monstrobolaxa · Post 01 Jul 2006, 21:39

Rooney was only getting the yellow card....if it wasn't for the push!

Spencifer_Murphy · Post 01 Jul 2006, 21:44

Yup! Thats exactly what I was suggesting. He was only going to get the yellow card but the push made it a red.

You gotta admit though, we haven't been THAT good all competition really, however as soon as we are down to 10 men SUDDENLY we start to play well!

At least we didn't make it easy for you eh Monstro? (Well up until Penalties)

Oh and for all you up and comming Jose Morinhio's out there, a tip...

If you need a goal keeper pick either Jens Lehmann or Ricardo....both of them are amazing at saving Penalties!!!

Spencifer_Murphy · Post 01 Jul 2006, 21:46

Oh sorry for the double reply...I forgot to mention:

Monstro, did you happen to see on your TV coverage the incidents I descibed about C.Ronaldo smiling and winking at Rooney AND the "Head-Butt" (maybe Head-Tap is a better description?)

If you did, what do you think about it? Obviously you'd like to believe the best (i would if I were Portugese) but surely (if you saw it and view it the same way as I did) that you'd be a bit ashamed of his behaviour?

Tom · Post 01 Jul 2006, 21:59

See this is why i hate footy, it brings out the worst in people, entire nations are following these idiots, hanging on their every word, partly because many of them can hardly string a sentance together, why? Rooney is clearly the missing link and some of the tackles I've witnessed him 'perform' that go unnoticed by the biased British press, yuk.

Regards the comment Spencifer_Murphy made about the too being club team-mates, that holds for nothing in such competition, if Villenurve and Heidfield were racing in Champcar and one witnessed the other knocking their teammate off the road, do you think he would stand up for him in the Stewards inquiry? I doubt it.

Bah, I didn't want to post much more on this topic but I'm annoyed about it now.

Spencifer_Murphy · Post 01 Jul 2006, 22:07

Tom wrote:Regards the comment Spencifer_Murphy made about the too being club team-mates, that holds for nothing in such competition, if Villenurve and Heidfield were racing in Champcar and one witnessed the other knocking their teammate off the road, do you think he would stand up for him in the Stewards inquiry? I doubt it.

Bah, I didn't want to post much more on this topic but I'm annoyed about it now.

Oh I agree Tom that the team-mates thing counts for nothing, thats why I classed it as a "moral" reason as opposed to the others which I classed as a "formal" reason.

BUT what got me angry about it is, if the foul was on Ronaldo, yeah complain to the ref get him sent off if u can...but the incidednt didnt even involve Ronaldo who took it upon himself to get Rooney sent off.

Don't get involved in an argument that isn't yours is what I'm getting at. C.Ronaldo had no right to be there talking to the ref about it. The incident involed Rooney and the player who got his nuts crushed (ouch! - you really go feel sorry for him don't ya?!) Ronaldo has no place being there and showed a complete lack of sportsmanship. And his attitude towards Rooney after the sending off was appauling.

For example, If Kimi and Fernando have an accident, that decides the Championship, i find it hard to believe Schumi would get involved unless asked.

Monstrobolaxa · Post 01 Jul 2006, 22:07

To tell you the truth I don't remember...I usually don't remember too much from soccer games! I only remember things from races! hehe

But I usually am ashamed of C. Ronaldo! He usually has some very "idiotic" atitudes! Probably you're right in what you're saying about him! But he usually lets stupidity get over him!

Before the world cup Portugal had 3 practice games...in 2 of them C. Ronaldo reacted badly...in one of them he tried (a few minutes after) to get revenge from a tackle.....in the other game he was tackled and started pushing the oponent around!

He really is a little tempered. He's young and doesn't have the big picture of what his atitude might do.....Figo is the oposite! He's very calm and thoughtfull.

Spencifer_Murphy · Post 01 Jul 2006, 22:12

Monstrobolaxa wrote:He really is a little tempered. He's young and doesn't have the big picture of what his atitude might do.....Figo is the oposite! He's very calm and thoughtfull.

With the exception of the Holland game right?

But yeah I completely agree C.Ronaldo is a poor ambassador for Portugese football. He is young and doesn't seem to appriciate that he has still a lot to learn about the game from greats like Luis Figo.

The way I see it, C.Ronaldo has been signed at a young age by a huge football club (Manchester United) where he has become famous in England for being good at step-overs but nothing much else. (Don't get me wrong he's a supremely talented footballer, but seems to try step-overs to make m=himself look better while his team-mate who was in space is now marked because Ronaldo took too long to pass it after he decided he wanted to show off.)

He really does think he's god on a pitch, and I think somebody like Figo could teach him a few things, if he calms down, plays like Figo, calm and calculating, then he really could become a great.

Ciro Pabón · Post 01 Jul 2006, 22:12

Tom wrote:Bah, I didn't want to post much more on this topic but I'm annoyed about it now.

Way to go, Tom. I already posted something about what Scots have given to the world with a little no-nonsense and a little hard work. I met Jim Clark at Jarama when I was 6. We shook hands. I have lived around cars because of him. I cried when he died, I was just a child, it was so unfair. He was the best, all the others have tried.

And Monstro, I am some kind of agnostic, but now I almost believe there IS a God... I hoped to be that happy when the hyped go hopping... Hip, hip, hurrah, Iberia!

Spence, get over it: be an english, man...

Spencifer_Murphy · Post 01 Jul 2006, 22:17

[quote="Ciro Pabón]Spence, get over it: be an english, man...

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Oh I am over it, its a football defeat, here in England its come to be expected!

I think the game was great to watch (a bit frustrating at times lol) and that the two teams had to come to penalties (which - lets face it - nobody likes to have to do)

I am proud that we didnt go down without a fight, proud of our showing today. Ok could b happier lol its never nice to go out, but C'est La Vie - thats life.

The ONLY thing I am bitter about it C.Ronaldo's behaviour. And that I'll be over in about 3hours time

Oh and as I type Thierry Henry has scored his 36th International Goal, putting France 1-0 up against Brazil. Allez Les Bleus!

Ciro Pabón · Post 01 Jul 2006, 22:23

Spencifer_Murphy wrote:Oh and as I type Thierry Henry has scored his 36th International Goal, putting France 1-0 up against Brazil. Allez Les Bleus!

Shut! I was so sure Brazil would level those french guys! I better go back to put some black magic on the field. See yah in one hour...

miqi23 · Post 01 Jul 2006, 22:54

Alright then, Brazil is gone as well!