Turkish GP 2010 - Istanbul Park

[djones]

There should be some type of grid penalty for going off and messing up everyone's hot lap like MS did, its almost like Rascassegate again. Not saying he did it on purpose but he may have gain an advantage from it... plus he doesnt have to start on the tires he destroyed.

Shut up.

[djos]

It is completely logical that the left front is in the air when the right rear suspension is damaged!

Agreed.

I bet my old tennis shoe that Vettel would have beaten Mark in an undamaged car.

We have a saying in Australia: Woulda, coulda, shouda ..... Didn't!

[ISLAMATRON]

There should be some type of grid penalty for going off and messing up everyone's hot lap like MS did, its almost like Rascassegate again. Not saying he did it on purpose but he may have gain an advantage from it... plus he doesnt have to start on the tires he destroyed.

I'm calling bull sh!t on this. Neither Webber's, Hamilton's, Vettel's nor Rosberg's hot laps were affected. Button's probably was but that is the risk of racing.

Yes Button was affected(where was Rosberg?), but had MS been further ahead in the que he could have messed up everybodies qually and possibly benefit from it. In the latter days on Champ car they had a rule that if you caused a red flag in qually you lost you fastest lap... I think something along those lines would be appropriate.

Like I said I dont think he did it on purpose(this time) but if you get a penalty for blocking during qually there should be some type of penalty for messing up people's laps by going off... same principle.

[segedunum]

We have a saying in Australia: Woulda, coulda, shouda ..... Didn't!

Woulda, coulda, shoulda does.

[lebesset]

time and again we see the cars on the dirty side of the track overtaken off the start

hamilton is hardly a poor starter , but the stagger is not enough to outweigh the track surface / best side of the grid disadvantage

we ought to go back to the old grid style where the front row were side by side , the pole sitter has the advantage of the best side , but second placed would have enough advantage to offset the clean side advantage of the third place

[marcush.]

as I said the RedBull as a team is not as strong as it could be .again ,when the clock is going down one of the two drivers has car issues to blame for him not performing.
And Webber only so much in front of hamilton in THAT car.. not really convincing.
For tommorrow we will see if RedBull has something up their sleeve in race pace ...but with the straightline speed lack it will not be that easy this time...

and what about rosberg...Brawn talking somewhere about different tyre strategy ..so he starts on primes????

brings me back to the supposedly TOP teams not really on top of their games in Q3
these bloody bastards have NOONE to blame when you go out late and don´t get a clean run ...idiots.

[MattF1]

The mechanics have also got some new high-tech clothes that improve performance. FIR-TEX is the provider. FIR being Far Infrared Rays.

What a load of (Red) Bull----.

Looks like they were paid a lot of money for mechanics to wear hot vests depite the fact they will do nothing.

Seeing as F1 is all about science and engineering why have red bull become partners with a company that specialises in pseudoscientific nonsense?

[D'Leh]

As they are only allowed to repair damaged parts in parc fermé we will know tomorrow if there is anything broken on Vettels car.

To me it looked like several driving mistakes. Lifting a front wheel in tight corners is nothing new. Seeing that very often on Hamilton's car. Just watch the super slowmos from Monaco, harbor chicane coming out of the tunnel.

[wesley123]

mclaren seem to have closed the gap a little bit, their qualifying pace seemed alot better, normally they were like 5th or 6th, but now they were able to challenge red bull on it.

[lebesset]

nothing to do with who the drivers are ; last time it was kubica who got mugged trying to get away ...the personnel are not relevant ....it's the principle of the matter ; vettel seemed quite happy to be third at the Q drivers interviews , as he said , he is on the clean side

is it right that it often seems better to qualify 3rd than 2nd ? not to me it isn't

[speedsense]

Vettel may have a braking problem, as he stated after qualifying that the left front kept locking up. He thought it was just a one time thing, but it kept happening on the following (last lap).
They can't touch the car, so if Vettel gets ahead of Hamilton at the start, he may not be able to stop......

[raymondu999]

I read somewhere that they could replace damaged parts actually. Not sure on that count though.

[zgred]

Is it famous turn 8? Popular place for off road. I am very curious what will happen while they will pass it with full tank and cold tires.

[speedsense]

IMHO, I don't think a locking wheel constitutes damage, unless they can prove the damage... though it would fall on the side of a safety issue, if they can prove it's the brakes and not the driver...
A sticking puck or one not "kicking back" in the caliper can easily appear as a driver induced problem, at least in the data it can.....

[ringo]

Vettel's front left wheel was off the ground even after the apex. The back right may be squatting to cause that. So it could be a roll bar problem.
At the same time he was over cooking it.