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What do you think of the prospect of a USGP 2012 at Austin Texas

Good thinking. Place has good infra structure and nice climate in winter.
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47%
Not good as it has no motor sport tradition in the US.
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9%
I will wait to see how it will shape up.
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36%
I don't care.
23
9%
 
Total votes: 269

hairy_scotsman
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strad wrote:
hairy_scotsman wrote:COTA brass went to Melbourne & will go to other GPs in an effort to gather the best ideas to handle crowds on race day. Anyone besides me think it's a little late for something like this? Shouldn't this have been going on last season?

http://www.kvue.com/news/Circuit-of-the ... um=twitter
One would have thought. Once again it highlights that we are not dealing with F1 people.
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hairy_scotsman
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Austin Police will implement same strategy as that used for South by Southwest:

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/aust ... lan-for-f1
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strad wrote:He says this as light hearted as my sister down on the Texas gulf and relatives in Louisiana.
They think nothing of hurricanes and big weather..I'm from Phoenix, a bad dust storm is as big as it gets.
To stay on topic, I hope it bypasses Austin and doesn't slow things down.
The line of storms is extending to the south now, all the way to Mexico. It's edging eastward, almost into Austin now. This thing looks really strong, and is moving very slowly, not like the usual big, fast storms that blow through here. Oh, and it stretches all the way to Minnesota and the Canadian border.
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xpensive
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hairy_scotsman wrote:COTA brass went to Melbourne & will go to other GPs in an effort to gather the best ideas to handle crowds on race day. Anyone besides me think it's a little late for something like this? Shouldn't this have been going on last season?

http://www.kvue.com/news/Circuit-of-the ... um=twitter
You gotta be kidding me, they think about this now, after design of the track, access roads, parking lots and shuttle buses? "Massive crowds"? Yeah right, guess Melbourne was the most convenient location to visit to learn how to handle such things?

Hope they enjoyed the city's fine dining.
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strad wrote:He says this as light hearted as my sister down on the Texas gulf and relatives in Louisiana.
They think nothing of hurricanes and big weather..I'm from Phoenix, a bad dust storm is as big as it gets.
To stay on topic, I hope it bypasses Austin and doesn't slow things down.
I say it light heartedly because I deal with severe weather all the time and it's become routine. Don't follow my example weather is effing dangerous.

But yeah in the south "moderate thunderstorms" scare SoCal types within an inch of their life. In the spring, it's fairly brutal.
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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BTW, 2.5" rain here at my house. 2.7" at ABIA, which is just a couple miles away from COTA.



May be out there in a few minutes.
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xpensive wrote:
hairy_scotsman wrote:COTA brass went to Melbourne & will go to other GPs in an effort to gather the best ideas to handle crowds on race day. Anyone besides me think it's a little late for something like this? Shouldn't this have been going on last season?

http://www.kvue.com/news/Circuit-of-the ... um=twitter
You gotta be kidding me, they think about this now, after design of the track, access roads, parking lots and shuttle buses? "Massive crowds"? Yeah right, guess Melbourne was the most convenient location to visit to learn how to handle such things?

Hope they enjoyed the city's fine dining.
Pretty awesome, eh?

Something really revealing of this leadership's ineptitude is the fact that they actually decided it would be wise to tell the whole world about traveling to other GPs, during the same season as their first race, in an effort to learn how to put on a GP.

"Hey! Look at us! We're clueless about motorsport! Wooo hooo!"
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I'm afraid it's more like;

"Hey! Look at us! We know this project is going to hell, but we're sure gonna go first class, all the way to Sepang,
then Shanghai, then Sakhir and then...err...?"
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The doom and gloom in this thread has me concerned about buy airfare.

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It's just the usual two suspects here plus one very vocal guy from Austin who's got a stiffy for Tavo and spends his time fear mongering on every F1 board I know. Add in a few sheep that they've herded up and it looks like a bigger deal than it is.

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Pierce89 wrote:I say it light heartedly because I deal with severe weather all the time and it's become routine. Don't follow my example weather is effing dangerous.

But yeah in the south "moderate thunderstorms" scare SoCal types within an inch of their life. In the spring, it's fairly brutal.
I had forgotten how much I love a good thunderstorm during the 10+ years I lived in Jersey. Some of the best sleep I ever get is when all hell is breaking loose outside.

Oh, and to give this some on-topic relevance, thunderstorms in these parts mean one of two things to construction, depending on your perspective: unexpected day off or a lighter paycheck. Either way, it's very rarely a catastrophe.

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Pierce89 wrote:
strad wrote:He says this as light hearted as my sister down on the Texas gulf and relatives in Louisiana.
They think nothing of hurricanes and big weather..I'm from Phoenix, a bad dust storm is as big as it gets.
To stay on topic, I hope it bypasses Austin and doesn't slow things down.
I say it light heartedly because I deal with severe weather all the time and it's become routine. Don't follow my example weather is effing dangerous.

But yeah in the south "moderate thunderstorms" scare SoCal types within an inch of their life. In the spring, it's fairly brutal.
I'm always super careful about weather, but I also keep myself well educated on the subject. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center is awesome this time of year. Once you learn all the acronyms and what everything means it's far more informative than the news could ever be.

Back on topic here, it's not strange that they're only now considering how to move people around. That is, truly, one of the LEAST important things especially here in Texas. This state has more roads than any other in the US, and ALWAYS welcomes expansion of infrastructure. When Texas Motors Speedway was built there was a lot of hand-wringing the first year. You're talking over a quarter million people all streaming off of I-35 and onto roads that weren't even reallly paved at the time. Second year things were significantly better, because the infrastructure needs had been properly taken care of.

To the guy that mentioned the Texas heat: It IS damned horrible. I honestly hate this state because of it. That said, by the time November rolls around, we're looking at highs in the 50's and 60's most years. Last year was warmer but this year should be back to average.

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thearmofbarlow wrote:Last year was warmer but this year should be back to average.
I dunno. There was literally not one day here this winter when shorts were entirely inappropriate attire for the weather.

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bhallg2k wrote:
thearmofbarlow wrote:Last year was warmer but this year should be back to average.
I dunno. There was literally not one day here this winter when shorts were entirely inappropriate attire for the weather.
Same in Alabama. The headline of the Birmingham News today was literally: "Winter Has Come and Gone(But Who Knew?)
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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thearmofbarlow wrote:
Pierce89 wrote:
strad wrote:He says this as light hearted as my sister down on the Texas gulf and relatives in Louisiana.
They think nothing of hurricanes and big weather..I'm from Phoenix, a bad dust storm is as big as it gets.
To stay on topic, I hope it bypasses Austin and doesn't slow things down.
I say it light heartedly because I deal with severe weather all the time and it's become routine. Don't follow my example weather is effing dangerous.

But yeah in the south "moderate thunderstorms" scare SoCal types within an inch of their life. In the spring, it's fairly brutal.
I'm always super careful about weather, but I also keep myself well educated on the subject. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center is awesome this time of year. Once you learn all the acronyms and what everything means it's far more informative than the news could ever be.

Back on topic here, it's not strange that they're only now considering how to move people around. That is, truly, one of the LEAST important things especially here in Texas. This state has more roads than any other in the US, and ALWAYS welcomes expansion of infrastructure. When Texas Motors Speedway was built there was a lot of hand-wringing the first year. You're talking over a quarter million people all streaming off of I-35 and onto roads that weren't even reallly paved at the time. Second year things were significantly better, because the infrastructure needs had been properly taken care of.

To the guy that mentioned the Texas heat: It IS damned horrible. I honestly hate this state because of it. That said, by the time November rolls around, we're looking at highs in the 50's and 60's most years. Last year was warmer but this year should be back to average.
I'd forgotten about the first race at Texas Motor Speedway. It was a mudhole for miles.
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher