That's a lot more important than people think, as the down-force is applied directly to the wheels. It allows the suspension to stay "soft" (relatively speaking).tok-tokkie wrote:No he means less cooling for the brakes themselves so they can add aero stuff at the rear brakes area.
dans79 wrote:That's a lot more important than people think, as the down-force is applied directly to the wheels. It allows the suspension to stay "soft" (relatively speaking).tok-tokkie wrote:No he means less cooling for the brakes themselves so they can add aero stuff at the rear brakes area.
Technically yes. But there is a loop hole around the brake ducts which makes it possible to create some aero bits in that area.flmkane wrote:dans79 wrote:That's a lot more important than people think, as the down-force is applied directly to the wheels. It allows the suspension to stay "soft" (relatively speaking).tok-tokkie wrote:No he means less cooling for the brakes themselves so they can add aero stuff at the rear brakes area.
Isn't that unsprung aero, ie illegal?
Basically you are right, but I would not call it a loop hole. In the paragraph where the movable aero and the rigidly securing of the parts on the sprung part of the car is defined, there is a clear exception for the DRS and the brake air ducts from this whole paragraph.Holm86 wrote:Technically yes. But there is a loop hole around the brake ducts which makes it possible to create some aero bits in that area.flmkane wrote:dans79 wrote: That's a lot more important than people think, as the down-force is applied directly to the wheels. It allows the suspension to stay "soft" (relatively speaking).
Isn't that unsprung aero, ie illegal?
I call it a loop hole because as you say it allows brake air ducts. But many of the winglets on the hubs of F1 cars has nothing to do with brake air ducts. They are just exploiting those areas for aero benefit.basti313 wrote:Basically you are right, but I would not call it a loop hole. In the paragraph where the movable aero and the rigidly securing of the parts on the sprung part of the car is defined, there is a clear exception for the DRS and the brake air ducts from this whole paragraph.Holm86 wrote:Technically yes. But there is a loop hole around the brake ducts which makes it possible to create some aero bits in that area.flmkane wrote: Isn't that unsprung aero, ie illegal?
Ohh sorry my bad. I just look those qouted text out of contex and that make now sense for me. Now is clear what they mean.tok-tokkie wrote:No he means less cooling for the brakes themselves so they can add aero stuff at the rear brakes area.
What does this mean? Is an engine software bug valuable for fuel consumption?aleks_ader wrote:Interesting thougts from article:
1. Engine software bug are for now more valuable for reducing fuel consumption
2. Hight speed curves was RB better, but in rest part of tracks Merc edge Ferrari
3. Merc W05 had 5-10% less downforce as W04
He means that an engine SW bu´g has a larger influence on the fuel consumption than an aero design which has a slightly higher wind resistance.NewtonMeter wrote:What does this mean? Is an engine software bug valuable for fuel consumption?aleks_ader wrote:Interesting thougts from article:
1. Engine software bug are for now more valuable for reducing fuel consumption
2. Hight speed curves was RB better, but in rest part of tracks Merc edge Ferrari
3. Merc W05 had 5-10% less downforce as W04
CBeck113 wrote:He means that an engine SW bu´g has a larger influence on the fuel consumption than an aero design which has a slightly higher wind resistance.NewtonMeter wrote:What does this mean? Is an engine software bug valuable for fuel consumption?aleks_ader wrote:Interesting thougts from article:
1. Engine software bug are for now more valuable for reducing fuel consumption
2. Hight speed curves was RB better, but in rest part of tracks Merc edge Ferrari
3. Merc W05 had 5-10% less downforce as W04
Sorry my mistake. I edit my original post. i hope it s now more understandable and readable.NewtonMeter wrote:CBeck113 wrote:NewtonMeter wrote:
Grammar and readability really are the true victims here today.
(I know this makes me seem like an arrogant cock, but I just couldn't resist)
Mercedes uses a part of the Front Wing pillars as crash structure to meet the minimum area rule. This would be a twin tusk, but not in the sense like LRGP is doing it for exampleDrewd11 wrote: Nope, not a twin tusk.
http://sky.pd.ak.o.brightcove.com/16501 ... =165012893
http://www.ausmotive.com/F1/2014/Merced ... -Jerez.jpg
From Ham's crash in Jerez. The nose tip is exactly where the rules dictate.