USF1 -- F1's All-American Challenger

[raceman]

Peter Windsor interviewed on the starting grid for Bahrain on 14 March 2010--

Interviewer: Well Peter, it's been a long effort for USF1, but now with just a few minutes remaining before the green flag it looks like you won't be able to make the race.

P. Windsor: Oh no, actually everything is fine. We've had a few problems, but that's to be expected in a new F1 team. We will definitely make the start of this race.

Interviewer: But you have no cars present at the track, you haven't passed crash testing, and your two drivers are running around in circles in the garage with their helmets on making sputtering engine noises with their mouths.

P. Windsor: Please just watch the promotional videos on our website. You'll clearly see things that look like F1 car parts. That proves we'll make the start of the season here in a few minutes.

Interviewer: You know Peter, it's very difficult to get a team going and get funding and I know many fans in America and around the world will be rooting for you even if you have to admit it's not working out.

P. Windsor: Thanks for the support, I'll see you from the top step of the podium after the race. We're really looking forward to the next race-- we have a new aero step that should be worth another 6 tenths per lap!!

this is hilarious

[xpensive]

Regarding the autosport forum posts, this is a load of crap. If one of their engineers is doing that, that would make him the most idiotic person in the history of idiocy. If you see a place going down in flames, you leave quietly before it hits the fan and find another job. Making a stink about it on a public forum is career suicide, even IF the operation is a hoax. No one is going to hire a whistle blower who airs it out in the open, let alone a half-*** whistle blower just wanting attention.

Personally, I am growing more skeptical of US F1 by the minute, but in the end they will either make the cut or they won't. If they don't, then we can all blame Windor/Anderson and the worst commissioner of any sport in history, Bernie Eccelstone. Only a complete lunatic torpedoes operations in their infancy that are coming out of a HUGE market you have never successfully cracked despite its potential and budding fan base. If you know they are having trouble, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! Even if they had sponsors lined up, how many do you think wil stay after the troll comes out of his cave and proclaims that he doubts your ability to produce a car. I got $20 that this is the reason that they had a "late" payment from a sponsor.

I beg to differ, as a freelancing engineer I have often found myself in situations were I simply want to open the window and scream my lungs ut, walk out the door or whatever. But you do have a paycheck to worry about and you don't wish to be a contract-breaker either.
Conflicting loyalties are difficult to handle, while at the same time you need to let off steam somehow, that's why God invented Absolut and mistresses I guess.

If sponsors stayed away from Andersons's creation because of MrE and his statements, they should be grateful.

[marcush.]

Regarding the autosport forum posts, this is a load of crap. If one of their engineers is doing that, that would make him the most idiotic person in the history of idiocy. If you see a place going down in flames, you leave quietly before it hits the fan and find another job. Making a stink about it on a public forum is career suicide, even IF the operation is a hoax. No one is going to hire a whistle blower who airs it out in the open, let alone a half-*** whistle blower just wanting attention.

Personally, I am growing more skeptical of US F1 by the minute, but in the end they will either make the cut or they won't. If they don't, then we can all blame Windor/Anderson and the worst commissioner of any sport in history, Bernie Eccelstone. Only a complete lunatic torpedoes operations in their infancy that are coming out of a HUGE market you have never successfully cracked despite its potential and budding fan base. If you know they are having trouble, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! Even if they had sponsors lined up, how many do you think wil stay after the troll comes out of his cave and proclaims that he doubts your ability to produce a car. I got $20 that this is the reason that they had a "late" payment from a sponsor.

I beg to differ, as a freelancing engineer I have often found myself in situations were I simply want to open the window and scream my lungs ut, walk out the door or whatever. But you do have a paycheck to worry about and you don't wish to be a contract-breaker either.
Conflicting loyalties are difficult to handle, while at the same time you need to let off steam somehow, that's why God invented Absolut and mistresses I guess.

If sponsors stayed away from Andersons's creation because of MrE and his statements, they should be grateful.

xpensive ,I had those moments as well ,so be assured I exactly know that sort of feelings.
but ..did you actually post something about these very feelings in a way that basically will kick you out of your work in an internet forum? I did not ,and only
for reasons to stand a slim chance to get my money someday....
So if someone is actually working for an outfit and is openly publicly bashing the
hand that is feeding him...well that is just unthinkable.
So to me this is if at all rumours spread with some truth to them ,maybe from a person that had an issue with one of the two ,be it Anderson or Windsor.
Just because it is typed and published all over the world it is not yet truth or
a fact ,even if we find our own opinions to be confirmed.

[Chaparral]

Bertrand sounds like the same troll I outed over on Atlas around 12 months ago - he was supposedly from within the inner sanctum of Honda F1 and same objective tipping crap all over the operation - one post from me outlining who I thought he was and he disappeared completely - I hoped for good but trolls are gluttons for punishment they always come back - Bertrand is full of rubbish.

[RH1300S]

Personally, I am growing more skeptical of US F1 by the minute, but in the end they will either make the cut or they won't. If they don't, then we can all blame Windor/Anderson and the worst commissioner of any sport in history, Bernie Eccelstone. Only a complete lunatic torpedoes operations in their infancy that are coming out of a HUGE market you have never successfully cracked despite its potential and budding fan base. If you know they are having trouble, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! Even if they had sponsors lined up, how many do you think wil stay after the troll comes out of his cave and proclaims that he doubts your ability to produce a car. I got $20 that this is the reason that they had a "late" payment from a sponsor.

Well put....

Yes, it's getting hard to believe that USF1 will make the grid.

Yes, Bernie should be doing everything he can to help this operation to get a US Team onto the grid. It would surely be good business for him.

On the one hand, I don't care whether a team comes from England or China - but I do see that there is much interest to be had from a competent US Team.

[xpensive]

Bertrand sounds like the same troll I outed over on Atlas around 12 months ago - he was supposedly from within the inner sanctum of Honda F1 and same objective tipping crap all over the operation - one post from me outlining who I thought he was and he disappeared completely - I hoped for good but trolls are gluttons for punishment they always come back - Bertrand is full of rubbish.

I think you have "Bertrand" confused with "Composite Ken", Chap?

Ciro, what's the legal limit for PUI on this here forum?

[segedunum]

Regarding the autosport forum posts, this is a load of crap. If one of their engineers is doing that, that would make him the most idiotic person in the history of idiocy.

The comment about a steel suspension made my eyes pop out. However, if it was just one or two then I would be sceptical. But it's not. As mentioned in another comment somewhere, the outsourced racing community around there in Alabama are quite close-knit. They all talk to each other and it's difficult to keep a lid on things when they're going wrong. Things always seep out.

If you see a place going down in flames, you leave quietly before it hits the fan and find another job. Making a stink about it on a public forum is career suicide, even IF the operation is a hoax.

Things always leak out. They always have and they always will.

Only a complete lunatic torpedoes operations in their infancy...

That really depends on the level of incompetence and how frustrated people are. If you think the thing is already dead then then you're hardly going to conclude that you're torpedoing the whole effort. If people didn't care then they wouldn't write those things.

Even if they had sponsors lined up, how many do you think wil stay after the troll comes out of his cave and proclaims that he doubts your ability to produce a car.

There have been meany leaks from various teams in the past and it hasn't made a great deal of difference to sponsorship. USF1 could make all that disappear overnight by producing a fully assembled car, but they can't. It's USF1 who are trolling at the moment because they've had enough time, money has been put in, they're still seeking money and they've produced nothing of what they said they would.

I got $20 that this is the reason that they had a "late" payment from a sponsor.

The smart money on the reason why they didn't get money from a sponsor is that they haven't actually got a car to race with. That raises more alarm bells then a post on a forum, and it just slightly confirms what people suspect already.

Hell, you've got BE saying the same things.

[Fil]

Hell, you've got BE saying the same things.

I think Bernie's comments stem from his favouritism towards StefanGP.. there must be a financial gain for him getting SGP to replace Campos or USF1.

There would be no other reason for him to bash the new Spanish or new American team.

[CMSMJ1]

I think BE would be glad to get an Amercian team so that he can put pressure on the US to host a race and pay squillions to him... The teams must want the US guys to pull through so they can pay a visit to their largest market

Serbia is not going to host a race anytime soon and if the IMF have anything to do with it they'll not be giving any loans to be squandered on an F1 team without an entry that is cast iron guaranteed.

[xpensive]

There would be no other reason for him to bash the new Spanish or new American team.

Other than MrE sometimes likes to tell things the way he sees them perhaps?

[Fil]

There would be no other reason for him to bash the new Spanish or new American team.

Other than MrE sometimes likes to tell things the way he sees them perhaps?

not if the comments will lose him money.

He's not that senile just yet!

[segedunum]

I think Bernie's comments stem from his favouritism towards StefanGP.. there must be a financial gain for him getting SGP to replace Campos or USF1.

I very much doubt it. Bernie backed Donnington, but I'll bet there was no financial gain directly from that for him.

There would be no other reason for him to bash the new Spanish or new American team.

I think he would love to have a US team in (there's money in it), but a credible one that will turn up. Bernie is more concerned about making sure that at least one of those grid slots is filled.

[Giblet]

All the talk about Bernie helping Minardi, and Williams financially in the past, which for the most part, amounted to a personal loan since obviously if these teams had enough credit they would not be asking him for money.

The thing is, he must have trusted these teams, as he helped them out. There seems to be no good will pointed at this team from anyone, so the deeper they dig, the less people will be willing to help.

Good luck to Windsor just going back to being a journo if this doesn't work. You can't do personal damage to the sport and expect to have people take your questions seriously anymore.

[Richard]

Other than MrE sometimes likes to tell things the way he sees them perhaps?

Such as Donnington is going to be a great track and ready in 2010?

.... or the medal system, or the shortcut idea?

.... of the umpteen times he threatens to remove a circuit from the calendar?

Mr E talks in riddles and his sole motive is to stir things up and make things opaque. That means he is the only one who really knows what is going on, and hence retains power.

[xpensive]

Other than MrE sometimes likes to tell things the way he sees them perhaps?

Such as Donnington is going to be a great track and ready in 2010?

.... or the medal system, or the shortcut idea?

.... of the umpteen times he threatens to remove a circuit from the calendar?

Mr E talks in riddles and his sole motive is to stir things up and make things opaque. That means he is the only one who really knows what is going on, and hence retains power.

Hold it, loyal knights of Windsor, I said "sometimes", didn't I?

But what is this anyway, you fans are not already trying to point fingers at somebody else for this mess, are you now?