Korean GP 2011 - Yeong-Am International Circuit

[raymondu999]

Let's hope this podium will be the catalyst for Hamilton to bounce back to his winning ways

[beelsebob]

Let's hope this podium will be the catalyst for Hamilton to bounce back to his winning ways

Lets hope that racing will be a catalyst for Hamilton to bounce back to his racing ways don't you mean? I want more lap 35s!

[Traction]

I so want that pic of Vettels finger over LH head on the podium....


Let's hope so Raymand, it's good to see a champion get his proverbial back together....

[Aced]

That's your opinion. I'll stick to mine

I don't see why you're talking about opinions and sticking to them and stuff all of a sudden? Of course we're sticking to our opinions. It would be a shame if we didn't.

But man did Alonso look pissed. Massa pretty much "ruined" his race but that's not his fault anyway. I wonder what's happening in that Ferrari garage.

[komninosm]

In Monza Alonso pushed him off the track and wasn't punished, too. So what?
The shortening of the track wasn't punished, because several drivers have done that earlier in Qualifying and Free Practice without the stewards noticing it. AMS says, Ferrari has peached on him.

Totally not the same. Vettel went for an unusual race line. Alonso didn't even see him. Beside I'm fine with penalizing Alonso for that if you must, 2 wrongs don't make a right: your argument is illogical.

There was no need for penalties in both cases. Vettel did exactly what many drives do at the starts. He defended his position by choosing to take the right side of the track. He stuck to this plan and did not change direction. It was JB who committed to overtake to the right and did not back off when he saw Vettel's defensive move. Besides, "push off track" has any meaning of the car are side by side. In this case, JB was way back Vettel.

So last race:
It was Massa who committed to overtake to the left and did not back off when he saw Hamilton's defensive move. Besides, "push off track" has any meaning [sic, grammar errors] of the car are side by side. In this case, Massa was way back [from] Hamilton.
Massa should have breaked harder or put 2 of his wheels on the grass (like Vettel and Button were force to do).
That's unless you want to be hypocritical about it.
In fact I think it's worse. Alonso's and Hamilton's defensive moves were on turns, perfectly justifiable to take the racing line then. Vettel swerves on the straight and Button was almost half way along side him, not behind him as you try to put it by twisting the facts.

Petrov just mounted the back of Schumi. Sigh.

Alonso overshot a lot too. Weird event.

PS: So no talk about how Webber got screwed over again pitting early with premium tires, before Vettel on options? Or about Red Bull having a far more dominant car than anyone thought again? Seriously the pole must have been due to new DRS of McLaren, race pace RBR is always king. I don't buy the BS that Vettel is superman, I'm on the supercar camp.

[vall]

Let's hope this podium will be the catalyst for Hamilton to bounce back to his winning ways

let's hope not

[Traction]

I think Vettel was the only person to do a sub 1:40 lap time.....

[PlatinumZealot]

Macca got smashed on race pace, especially on the softs. I was sweating profusely when Webber was catching up.. only by the gift of KERS and a bit of luck with the track layout were Mclaren able to hold on. They say mclaren is close now, but I am still not really comforatable for 2012, redbull still got that bit extra - they control the race a bit too much nowadays.

RedBull are quite clever nowadauys. They had us all fooled Sacrificong qualifying pace for race pace - it was almost a giveaway when they ran the supersofts in Q2. but Alas, dry running was limited throughout the weekend so it was hard to set up the cars.

[Richard]

What a great race with so many drivers battling for places.

DRS worked well, it was enough to let fast cars get past slow cars, but still required tough fights for evenly matched cars.

[Richard]

I was sweating profusely when Webber was catching up.. only by the gift of KERS and a bit of luck with the track layout were Mclaren able to hold on. They say mclaren is close now, but I am still not really comforatable for 2012, redbull still got that bit extra

eh?

I thought you were a diehard RB fan nowadays? Make your mind up!

....

Or why not appreciate all the cars?

[zgred]

yawn...

Sorry, but if you thought that was boring, hand in your F1 fan card.

Take a closer look on the picture and comment. I was not commenting race but combination of great car, good driver and almost complete lack of misfortune which results with 10th boring P1.

[Shrieker]

I think the bulls were ahead in race pace today as evidenced by Webber's performance. It wasn't one of those days where McLaren could match(like Barcelona) or surpass(Budapest) Red Bull on race pace. Given the speed differential, Hamilton really did a good job holding onto 2nd; he dug with his nails and fully deserved. Too bad he missed the chance to win last weekend when McLaren was on a par with Red Bull, today it wasn't possible with Vettel making no mistakes(kudos to him).

I was surprised with Button. When Webber starting attacking Hamilton, I thought Jenson would just sit there and wait until they chewed their tyres jostling for position. It didn't happen, but he absolutely did nothing for quarter of a race where he was only ~1 sec. behind Webber.

The RB 7 was mighty in the last corner. You'd expect a following car to lose df from dirty air, didn't really look like the case. Almost every lap Webber was closing to Hamilton on the final corner. I think the RB 7 has a really efficient underbody.

[myurr]

Macca got smashed on race pace, especially on the softs. I was sweating profusely when Webber was catching up.. only by the gift of KERS and a bit of luck with the track layout were Mclaren able to hold on. They say mclaren is close now, but I am still not really comforatable for 2012, redbull still got that bit extra - they control the race a bit too much nowadays.

RedBull are quite clever nowadauys. They had us all fooled Sacrificong qualifying pace for race pace - it was almost a giveaway when they ran the supersofts in Q2. but Alas, dry running was limited throughout the weekend so it was hard to set up the cars.

McLaren just had the wrong setup. Both cars had massive understeer despite cranking on the front wing, something we haven't seen them have so far this year.

Given the lack of running, and completely different track temperature and weather between today and yesterday, there was a large element of luck as to which team got the setup just right. Let's just wait and see what happens over the last few races before descending into blind panic.

[beelsebob]

I think the bulls were ahead in race pace today as evidenced by Webber's performance. It wasn't one of those days where McLaren could match(like Barcelona) or surpass(Budapest) Red Bull on race pace. Given the speed differential, Hamilton really did a good job holding onto 2nd; he dug with his nails and fully deserved. Too bad he missed the chance to win last weekend when McLaren was on a par with Red Bull, today it wasn't possible with Vettel making no mistakes.

I was surprised with Button. When Webber starting attacking Hamilton, I thought Jenson would just sit there and wait until they chewed their tyres jostling for position. It didn't happen, but he did absolutely nothing for quarter of a race where he was only ~1 sec. behind Webber.

The RB 7 was mighty in the last corner. You'd expect a following car to lose df from dirty air, didn't really look like the case. Almost every lap Webber was closing to Hamilton on the final corner. I think the RB 7 has a really efficient underbody.

Pretty sure Button had essentially the same problem as Webber, but in reverse. The RBR was so fast through S3, but slow through S1, Webber couldn't use the DRS advantage, button couldn't get close enough, but if he had done no doubt would have got past.

Button was often only 0.6 behind after S1 and S2... but could not quite keep that gap through S3.

[raymondu999]

The McLarens had massive traction though. I think Webber played it wrong when he passed Hamilton into T1. He should've done what Rosberg did and slowed so that HE had DRS. I think Rosberg did that to Button IIRC