2012 Monaco GP - Monte Carlo

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raymondu999 wrote:This map begs to differ though:
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When in doubt I follow Crucial X...he is right!
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the FIA agrees with raymondu999, if I'm interpreting this correctly

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/champion ... rcuit.aspx

Though to be honest, I thought "piscine" or "swimming pool" referred to both chicanes together.

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bhallg2k wrote:
Hail22 wrote:Oh for the love of pete!

Can we stop talking about technical aspects of paint?.
It's not like there's a new engine or gearbox or innovative aerodynamic solution just around the corner for the next race. This is what the regulations have done to technical discussions.

Hell, even if those things were in the pipeline, their effects would be wholly mitigated by Pirelli's rubber dee-lites.
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Anywho, seems Ferrari' Twitter account has gone dormant.

Cars arrive tomorrow morning correct? hopefully a new RW, front nose and rear brake duct turning veins will pop its head up.
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For Monaco I think it's a Tuesday touchdown and Wednesday unpacking. Could be wrong.
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Hail22 wrote:Have you bought a ticket yet? My entry says Raikkonen, with Alonso running in the suplimentary.
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My ticket says Alonso. I don't know why.

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I never knew "the swimming pool" had another name. Either way, I expect it to be the most treacherous part of the track, with about an inch or so of piled up rubber off-line making any mistakes very costly.

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It's been a while since we saw a proper mistake there IMO. I'd watch out for the Massenet/Casino complex more myself, and the tunnel. We saw in 2010 and 2011 that if you were on the dust in those places, it's bye bye baby.
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The thing is if Ferrari manage to solve the aerodynamic problems we wouldn't know, as was said it is a pirellotteri so we wouldn't know :(
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raymondu999 wrote:It's been a while since we saw a proper mistake there IMO. I'd watch out for the Massenet/Casino complex more myself, and the tunnel. We saw in 2010 and 2011 that if you were on the dust in those places, it's bye bye baby.
A proper mistake there caused a red flag last year ;)

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N12ck wrote:The thing is if Ferrari manage to solve the aerodynamic problems we wouldn't know, as was said it is a pirellotteri so we wouldn't know :(
Blah blah blah lottery blah blah blah. Can we try and keep the whinges and whines about the tyres to the appropriate thread. It's getting really frustrating to see the same 'clever' phrases such as pirellotteri appearing in every single thread.

And anyway Ferrari have said they have a good handle on the tyres, and have been consistent in the races, so the point isn't even applicable.

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myurr wrote:
N12ck wrote:The thing is if Ferrari manage to solve the aerodynamic problems we wouldn't know, as was said it is a pirellotteri so we wouldn't know :(
Blah blah blah lottery blah blah blah. Can we try and keep the whinges and whines about the tyres to the appropriate thread. It's getting really frustrating to see the same 'clever' phrases such as pirellotteri appearing in every single thread.

And anyway Ferrari have said they have a good handle on the tyres, and have been consistent in the races, so the point isn't even applicable.
The most frustrating bit about this is that the parent post was blatantly false, ferrari improved their aero significantly, and we immediately saw an improvement in their results.

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Maybe. Maybe not. One of the problems with the Pirellis is that it's hard to accurately put a finger on what's an aero gain and what's a gain in understanding the tires. This will be an issue until a definite pattern emerges in F1's pecking order.

Until then, the subject of tires, specifically their seemingly random characteristics, is ripe for debate, which, I can assure you, is nowhere near as frustrating or annoying as watching races wholly dictated by tire strategy.

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bhallg2k wrote:Maybe. Maybe not. One of the problems with the Pirellis is that it's hard to accurately put a finger on what's an aero gain and what's a gain in understanding the tires. This will be an issue until a definite pattern emerges in F1's pecking order.

Until then, the subject of tires, specifically their seemingly random characteristics, is ripe for debate, which, I can assure you, is nowhere near as frustrating or annoying as watching races wholly dictated by tire strategy.
So debate it in the myriad of tyre related threads, not in every darned thread on the board.

Ferrari themselves say they had a good handle on the tyres this year. If we take them at their word then your point is moot.

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Wrong. The point is moot in your eyes.

You're not obligated to read everything you see. Skip what you will.

Otherwise, recognize that tires are used at every race. So, it's only natural that the subject will come up in more than one area.