Sebastian Vettel has won the Japanese GP after leading it from start to finish. With the DNF of Fernando Alonso, this also means that he was able to close the gap to Alonso to a mere 4 points in the championship standings. The remaining Ferrari of Felipe Massa finished in second place while home here Kamui Kobayashi joined the podium in third place.
Do we know if the FIA has required McLaren or Red Bull to change anything about their wing before one can reach this conclusion?WhiteBlue wrote: After the FiA did a new wing test for scrutineering in Suzuka Alonso should be closer to both Vettel and Hamilton.
I would assume that both teams will have brought wings that could stand the new test. Anything else would be madness. We know from an AMuS report published today that the new test was carried out. The rest is a conclusion. We will see.phillippe wrote:Do we know if the FIA has required McLaren or Red Bull to change anything about their wing before one can reach this conclusion?WhiteBlue wrote: After the FiA did a new wing test for scrutineering in Suzuka Alonso should be closer to both Vettel and Hamilton.
Why would you assume that? After all...WhiteBlue wrote:I would assume that both teams will have brought wings that could stand the new test. Anything else would be madness. We know from an AMuS report published today that the new test was carried out. The rest is a conclusion. We will see.
I'm just looking for consistency here.WhiteBlue wrote:There is no such thing as complete rigidity. This is why we have load tests and specific rules. Obviously there is no load test in existence to prevent the cantilevered fixing of the wings.
My impression is that you are looking for splitting hairs. But what do I know. Be advised that both comments were written with a different set of news updates. The existence of the new test was only reported today. It changes the story somewhat.bhallg2k wrote:Why would you assume that? After all...WhiteBlue wrote:I would assume that both teams will have brought wings that could stand the new test. Anything else would be madness. We know from an AMuS report published today that the new test was carried out. The rest is a conclusion. We will see.I'm just looking for consistency here.WhiteBlue wrote:There is no such thing as complete rigidity. This is why we have load tests and specific rules. Obviously there is no load test in existence to prevent the cantilevered fixing of the wings.
So we have an assumption that both teams have indeed brought new wings to comply with a load test, the details of which we know nothing of as of now, and an assumption that any modifications both teams may or may not have made to their hypothetical new wings have a definite and material performance impact on both teams' cars. And we have a conclusion based on this. Great!WhiteBlue wrote:I would assume that both teams will have brought wings that could stand the new test. Anything else would be madness. We know from an AMuS report published today that the new test was carried out. The rest is a conclusion. We will see.phillippe wrote:Do we know if the FIA has required McLaren or Red Bull to change anything about their wing before one can reach this conclusion?WhiteBlue wrote: After the FiA did a new wing test for scrutineering in Suzuka Alonso should be closer to both Vettel and Hamilton.
Yet another comeback that didn't end well. I hope he wins a GP, however miraculous that may be given the W03. He deserves it at least for his passion and work ethic.Kiril Varbanov wrote:MSC announced retirement: https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/statu ... 6112418816
This should probably mean that J. ALG gets a Sauber place? Let's see.phillippe wrote: Yet another comeback that didn't end well. I hope he wins a GP, however miraculous that may be given the W03. He deserves it at least for his passion and work ethic.
What makes you say that?WhiteBlue wrote:Obviously there is no load test in existence to prevent the cantilevered fixing of the wings.
Passed them with the same nose/wing combo as in Singapore or passed with one that doesnt have the trick pivoting wing?alogoc wrote:Mclaren and RB has passed new FW tests!
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Please note the time stamp on the above quote. I wrote this before the FiA introduced the new test. My later posts make it clear that I agree with your opinion. Afaik both teams were told in Singapore that a modified test would be carried out in Suzuka. Reportedly that has happened. And the new test was passed by both teams. Which leads me to believe that the current front wings of both teams are in compliance with the requirements of rigidity. They could simply have fitted a second bolt which previously wasn't fitted. It is not exactly rocket science to make this type of tilt wing rigid.beelsebob wrote:What makes you say that?WhiteBlue wrote:Obviously there is no load test in existence to prevent the cantilevered fixing of the wings.
If the wing moves under a force (which in order for the complaint to be valid, it would have to), then obviously, a load test that applies the same force would find it.
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