FIA Thread

[hollus]

Well, considering what discussions are going on with the FIA right now, the context of 2022 is called 2021.
But yeah, please let's not revisit that for the 101th time.

[Restomaniac]

Maybe it would change it to something more palatable to Mercedes/Hamilton fans, and there is an argument to void the final race result. However, voiding the Spa result purely to obtain a different Championship outcome (months after the event - with no appeal from any party until it it is known that it would affect the Championship outcome), would be manipulation of the highest order.
That would go beyond the level of result manipulation that Mercedes/Hamilton fans have been railing against for two months now.
A worse outcome…

Oh I agree, its far too late to do anything now. I was just pointing out the race in Belgium was as much of a scandal as what happened in abu dhabi. Just all for different reasons. Both races for different reasons have no place in F1
It was just a coincidence that of these 2 scandals were removed, a different driver would be champion.

Is this going to be another "Hamilton got robbed because of FIA" thread? I thought this is about FIA in the context of 2022.

If Masi goes it’s a huge black mark to Verstappen’s WDC.

He will never shake the fact how he won the WDC required the race director to lose his job. No amount of arguing will ever change that.

[Restomaniac]

Well, considering what discussions are going on with the FIA right now, the context of 2022 is called 2021.
But yeah, please let's not revisit that for the 101th time.

True but the result of Masi being removed will be that it brings into question Verstappen’s WDC. He hasn’t been removed for fun.

[Ryar]

Oh I agree, its far too late to do anything now. I was just pointing out the race in Belgium was as much of a scandal as what happened in abu dhabi. Just all for different reasons. Both races for different reasons have no place in F1
It was just a coincidence that of these 2 scandals were removed, a different driver would be champion.

Is this going to be another "Hamilton got robbed because of FIA" thread? I thought this is about FIA in the context of 2022.

If Masi goes it’s a huge black mark to Verstappen’s WDC.

He will never shake the fact how he won the WDC required the race director to lose his job. No amount of arguing will ever change that.

Questions is, does any of this non existent reaon for bickering about Max's title add any value to this thread. Any constructive suggestions to improve the execution and management of the show, is welcome.

[Big Tea]

Is this going to be another "Hamilton got robbed because of FIA" thread? I thought this is about FIA in the context of 2022.

If Masi goes it’s a huge black mark to Verstappen’s WDC.

He will never shake the fact how he won the WDC required the race director to lose his job. No amount of arguing will ever change that.

Questions is, does any of this non existent reaon for bickering about Max's title add any value to this thread. Any constructive suggestions to improve the execution and management of the show, is welcome.

It will be forgotten by most by seasons end, but some 'have copious notes'

[Restomaniac]

Is this going to be another "Hamilton got robbed because of FIA" thread? I thought this is about FIA in the context of 2022.

If Masi goes it’s a huge black mark to Verstappen’s WDC.

He will never shake the fact how he won the WDC required the race director to lose his job. No amount of arguing will ever change that.

Questions is, does any of this non existent reaon for bickering about Max's title add any value to this thread. Any constructive suggestions to improve the execution and management of the show, is welcome.

Well it’s somewhat relevant as it’s the cause to the current FIA effect.

As for it being non existent. You do know it’s not normal for someone winning a WDC causing the Race Director to have to leave………Right?

The FIA and the sport has got itself in a right old mess due to how the end of the 2021 season finished.

[Restomaniac]

If Masi goes it’s a huge black mark to Verstappen’s WDC.

He will never shake the fact how he won the WDC required the race director to lose his job. No amount of arguing will ever change that.

Questions is, does any of this non existent reaon for bickering about Max's title add any value to this thread. Any constructive suggestions to improve the execution and management of the show, is welcome.

It will be forgotten by most by seasons end, but some 'have copious notes'

I disagree.
James Hunt’s WDC has always been questioned due to Lauda’s accident.
Nico Rosberg’s WDC has because of the amount of ICE failure to his teammate.

It’s a black mark Verstappen will never quite remove. He doesn’t deserve it but it will always be there.

[Ryar]

If Masi goes it’s a huge black mark to Verstappen’s WDC.

He will never shake the fact how he won the WDC required the race director to lose his job. No amount of arguing will ever change that.

Questions is, does any of this non existent reaon for bickering about Max's title add any value to this thread. Any constructive suggestions to improve the execution and management of the show, is welcome.

Well it’s somewhat relevant as it’s the cause to the current FIA effect.

As for it being non existent. You do know it’s not normal for someone winning a WDC causing the Race Director to have to leave………Right?

The FIA and the sport has got itself in a right old mess due to how the end of the 2021 season finished.

Nobody wins a title because of some freak incident. Max put all the right effort and did everything right to earn it. Simple fact. Like in all competitive seasons, there have been misses on FIA's (race direction and stewarding) part, which they need to sort to ensure another competitive season is executed without too much heart burn. It's impossible to fix every single situation, but atleast if they can achieve consistency in managing the show, that in itself would be a win. Staring and living in the past is not going to improve the future for FIA and they must by now, should have definitive improvements in place.

[Restomaniac]

Questions is, does any of this non existent reaon for bickering about Max's title add any value to this thread. Any constructive suggestions to improve the execution and management of the show, is welcome.

Well it’s somewhat relevant as it’s the cause to the current FIA effect.

As for it being non existent. You do know it’s not normal for someone winning a WDC causing the Race Director to have to leave………Right?

The FIA and the sport has got itself in a right old mess due to how the end of the 2021 season finished.

Nobody wins a title because of some freak incident. Max put all the right effort and did everything right to earn it. Simple fact. Like in all competitive seasons, there have been misses on FIA's (race direction and stewarding) part, which they need to be sorted to ensure another competitive season is executed without too much heart burn. It's impossible to fix every single situation, but atleast if they can achieve consistency in managing the show, that in itself would be a win. Staring and living in the past is not going to improve the future for FIA and they must by now, should have definitive improvements in place.

He literally did.

[Restomaniac]

What I find amazing that this is going to drag in all closed season.

[Restomaniac]

It will be forgotten by most by seasons end, but some 'have copious notes'

I disagree.
James Hunt’s WDC has always been questioned due to Lauda’s accident.
Nico Rosberg’s WDC has because of the amount of ICE failure to his teammate.

It’s a black mark Verstappen will never quite remove. He doesn’t deserve it but it will always be there.

What? Who questions Rosberg's WDC lol. I think if a person questions Rosberg's then there is a 100% chance they question Verstappen's - and it means they are simply a partisan likely British Hamilton fan.

In any case, we've had about 26 threads this last year with you and Ryar and NathanOlder and Aerodynamic bickering, so please cut it out.

Did you just ignore me mentioning James Hunt?

Me bickering? I think you’re confusing me with somebody else as I’ve hardly posted at all in the closed season.

[hollus]

On topic please.

[Zynerji]

When they make the movie called "Still I Rise" where Lewis comes back after unfair heartbreak, Masi the Villian will turn out to be the stimulus for the greatest season in F1 that there ever was. Where against the most fair* rules reset in F1 history, he came back from injustice on equal footing to become the statistical Greatest of All Time. Erasing all doubt in the hearts and minds of millions.

Masi should have thrown the red flag immediately when that crash happened, and had a standing restart with proper fuel levels and fresh tyres. That would have been thrilling and 99% acceptable to the fans, I believe.

Instead we are about to witness a once in a lifetime, season long, comeback. Live, and unfolding on high definition media from thousands of angles.

None of it possible without Masi's decision.

I'm personally looking forward to it!

*not everyone is at the cap, or has equal legacy hardware advantage.

[saviour stivala]

Re restart on fresh tyres. That number 44 missed being on fresh tyres like number 33 was all of his team making.

[Zynerji]

Re restart on fresh tyres. That number 44 missed being on fresh tyres like number 33 was all of his team making.

Sure. But it would have been more acceptable to watch a duel of equals in sudden death than the debacle that unfolded.