2022 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 09 - 11

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Re: 2022 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 09 - 11

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Zynerji wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 15:10
politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 14:42
It jus amazes me how slow Perez is compared to his teammate, literally since Miami he's been nowhere. But even at that pace he still scores podiums comfortably just by the relative pace of the car.
The difference in floors between the RBR cars is a huge disadvantage for Checo.
Horner says it's at most a tenth of a second, and they make up that deficit in other parts of the car eg a bit more weight reduction
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politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 15:23
chrisc90 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 15:12
I think i'm rooting for an Alonso podium this weekend behind Max and Charles. Tough choice, especially for the Fantasy GP predictions of who will bring up that 3rd place. I initially thought russell, but the Mercedes seems to be lacking in pace round here.
I hope the same. But if Russell starts ahead of him then this will be unlikely. Merc has decent race pace even in Spa they were arguably 2nd fastest in race conditions.
in the longruns yesterday, Alpine and Mercedes looked more or less equal on pace. But yeah, Alonso would definitely need to beat Russell and Norris today, and then hope for Perez (and maybe also Sainz) to get stuck somewhere tomorrow.

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politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 15:21
Gillian wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 14:47
politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 14:42
It jus amazes me how slow Perez is compared to his teammate, literally since Miami he's been nowhere. But even at that pace he still scores podiums comfortably just by the relative pace of the car.
Wait what? You're kidding right...

Zandvoort: P5
Belgium: P2
Hungary: P5
France: P4
Austria: P20
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No, I'm not you're just proving me right actually, he scores podiums as the car is fast but otherwise he's mediocre - essentially the same as last season. In Austria Perez was fighting with Russell. His teammate could comfortably make an extra pit stop and still was several seconds ahead of him by the end of the race. And then there's Spa where he was absolutely nowhere near the pace. They driving the same machinery mind you.

Just look at the average pace delta from Verstappen to Perez in both the race and in qualifying you'll see what I'm talking about.
No, I disagree about the podium part. He had one podium in the last five races. Yes he lacks pace, no he is not a regular podium contender.

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Probably left 2-3 tenths by understeering into Ascari 1 there.
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Looks smooth on the main straight yet porpoising elsewhere. Or is that the bumpiness of this track?
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tenth at most

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Pretty conservative at the first chicane compared to his first soft lap in Fp3

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pinnacle of motorsport!!!one

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Pinochle of motorsport.
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Alpha Tauri is quick this weekend. Tsunoda could be on for points starting at botg

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About the grid for tomorrow, penalties are applied as follows:
first the penalties are counted and each driver will be occupy his starting position + penalty. The driver who have no penalty will advance to occupy the empty slots in front of him until they reach a slot occupied by a penalized driver.
Example if we take P3 resulat:
01 Max Verstappen Red Bull
02 Charles Leclerc Ferrari
03 Sergio Perez Red Bull
04 Carlos Sainz Ferrari
05 Fernando Alonso Alpine
06 Lando Norris McLaren
07 George Russell Mercedes
08 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri
09 Esteban Ocon Alpine
10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
11 Guanyu Zhou Alfa Romeo
12 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri
13 Nicholas Latifi Williams
14 Nyck De Vries Williams
15 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren
16 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo
17 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin
18 Kevin Magnussen Haas
19 Mick Schumacher Haas
20 Lance Stroll Aston Martin

ths starting grid will be :

1 Charles Leclerc Ferrari
2 Fernando Alonso Alpine
3 Lando Norris McLaren
4 George Russell Mercedes
5 Guanyu Zhou Alfa Romeo
6 Max Verstappen Red Bull
7 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri
8 Nicholas Latifi Williams
9 Nyck De Vries Williams
10 Daniel Ricciardo McLaren
11 Sebastian Vettel Aston Martin
12 Lance Stroll Aston Martin
13 Sergio Perez Red Bull
14 Esteban Ocon Alpine
15 Valtteri Bottas Alfa Romeo
16 Carlos Sainz Ferrari
17 Yuki Tsunoda AlphaTauri
18 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
19 Kevin Magnussen Haas
20 Mick Schumacher Haas

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Zhou has destroyed Bottas this weekend. Is a pattern that's emerged after the first part of the season.

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Imagine being Latifi this weekend. Eek!!
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