2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

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organic wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 11:25
RZS10 wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 11:20
No, please, show me the instance Hamilton impeded someone in Abu Dhabi and stop moving goalposts.
My guess is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oOKZxVQprg
just for clarity's sake
So in a practice session, rather than in qualifying? And the comparison is with a driver released from the pit into the path of a car, and Max who deliberately swerved to try and block off a driver? Hmm.

bonjon1979
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And obviously no penalty for Max. Obviously.

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organic wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 11:25
RZS10 wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 11:20
No, please, show me the instance Hamilton impeded someone in Abu Dhabi and stop moving goalposts.
My guess is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oOKZxVQprg
just for clarity's sake
I did check but google did not return any results for variations of "Hamilton impeding Abu Dhabi 2021" etc and as i wrote the docs did not mention it.
It's geolocked, so i looked it up on f1.com, where it was also geolocked (?) so i ran it through a vpn ... thanks!

And as expected Mr. ButWhatAbout not only managed to completely miss the point, wrote "BuT HaMiltOn ..." only to switch to quoting the document but of course the situation is completely different as well (free practice, just getting out of the pits, not getting warned and trying to get out of the way vs. spinning up the rears to get heat in, with a car approaching fast from behind in quali) and wasn't even investigated.

Truly astonishing.

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God these race threads standards are being lowered to a seriously crap level. Might leave this forum at this rate. People need to have a word with themselves as the amount of bile being produced is beyond words.

If you think that was done intentionally then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Engineer didn’t tell him about Lando as they’re both on an outlap and they’ve been holding station up until this point. If I was lead driver getting round to start quali lap I’d be more concerned with getting my equipment in the perfect window then continuously looking in my mirrors when you know there are nil cars on a quali lap. Still a reprimand is fine here as he shouldn’t lose the car warming up the tires (being in control of the car at all times)

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 11:51
God these race threads standards are being lowered to a seriously crap level. Might leave this forum at this rate. People need to have a word with themselves as the amount of bile being produced is beyond words.

If you think that was done intentionally then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Engineer didn’t tell him about Lando as they’re both on an outlap and they’ve been holding station up until this point. If I was lead driver getting round to start quali lap I’d be more concerned with getting my equipment in the perfect window then continuously looking in my mirrors when you know there are nil cars on a quali lap. Still a reprimand is fine here as he shouldn’t lose the car warming up the tires (being in control of the car at all times)
Doubt anyone things it was intentional. But intentionality isn't a factor in penalties generally. As most incidents aren't intentional.

Reprimand I'd fine, 3 places would gave been fine

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There are several instances with others, indeed Hamilton too. We have one in Brazil 2019 with a Williams and last year was that in Jeddah, that gave me a scare too.

It could have been a penalty, but here too it was a reprimand, ok, that’s that then.

The lap was very fast, the second didn’t come to fruition but it still was enough. Could be close tomorrow and rain might spice things up.

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Ferrari have chosen such a skinny rear wing for this race in order to keep up with RB on this track. I'm afraid they're going to be eaten alive again tomorrow...

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looks very likely to be wet now anyway. But yeah, more downforce would normally help in those conditions as well

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Looking forward to a good race tomorrow, I really love this circuit, it is in my bucket list to watch the F1 at this track.
An early race for me tomorrow, up before the start at 6 am. I am planning to cook a full english breakfast before the race start, what plans do you you have for watching the race tomorrow?

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A whole lot of posts have been removed.

At the risk of repeating myself:

If you post in only adding noise and mud to the forum... don't post it.

If you are here to talk about F1, ideally with less fandom and more technical mind, welcome.
But if you are here to pick fights, find elsewhere to do so.
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Recent forecast has medium rain pushing earlier, starting 10:00 now. Becomes heavier into the afternoon and extreme by 16:00.

Not wanting to be too pessimistic but there really looks a chance of no race tomorrow. Especially with the useless full wets (safety car tyre…) they have.

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Mogster wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 14:38
Recent forecast has medium rain pushing earlier, starting 10:00 now. Becomes heavier into the afternoon and extreme by 16:00.

Not wanting to be too pessimistic but there really looks a chance of no race tomorrow. Especially with the useless full wets (safety car tyre…) they have.
If only the organizers had the foresight to move the race 2 hours earlier.
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 14:41
Mogster wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 14:38
Recent forecast has medium rain pushing earlier, starting 10:00 now. Becomes heavier into the afternoon and extreme by 16:00.

Not wanting to be too pessimistic but there really looks a chance of no race tomorrow. Especially with the useless full wets (safety car tyre…) they have.
If only the organizers had the foresight to move the race 2 hours earlier.
Definitely. Assuming the forecast is correct and by the criteria used this year, and the tyres available, I can’t see there being any suitable conditions for a start beyond 11am.

Not considering starting earlier would seem to be negligent.

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I can't believe I say this but it feels like it has rained too much and too often this season. Race organisers have killed wet sessions

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I have some sympathy for Pirelli generally but I just don’t understand why pressure isn’t put on them to produce a better full wet tyre. The drivers all seem to agree it’s useless, the current pit lane name for it seems to be the “safety car tyre” as all its good for is circulating behind the SC shifting some water.

The wet isn’t designed to some FIA spec to encourage strategy, Pirelli can just bring their best tech. There’s just no excuse for the wet tyres to be so much worse than the tyre war tyres in this case.
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