European GP 2010 - Valencia

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
User avatar
Poleman
1
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 19:25

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

Nice pit-shot from RB6 from yesterday's qualy.

Image
Last edited by Poleman on 27 Jun 2010, 08:26, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Poleman
1
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 19:25

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

segedunum wrote: All in all, I've seen nothing to suggest that my prediction, and that of Gary Anderson, that many teams' focus on the F-duct wasn't bringing anything tangible when there are obviously far more other fruitful areas of development.
Same with RB...Havent seen anything major from their side, apart from bits and bites here and there and also their F-Duct so far, at the same moment that everyone's updating.They have rested upon having the best car but if u have almost 1 second difference than the others at season start,u try to keep it and not wait others to close it first and then start updating...

Goran2812
Goran2812
27
Joined: 28 Mar 2010, 22:58
Location: Germany, BW

Re: Ferrari F10

Post

with a good race pace,some luck and quick tyre changes Alonso could go for 3rd again...
Visit my photo page! -> http://www.gorankphoto.com/formula1

myurr
myurr
9
Joined: 20 Mar 2008, 21:58

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

WhiteBlue wrote:I hope that Vettel can hold the top position through the race. The RB6 is the fastest car around the circuit but it is dreadfully slow in the speed trap and in sector II with the long straight. I'm afraid that Hamilton will be able to jump both Red Bulls on the long back straight.

Seb will not be able to save much tyres there. He will need to push for a gap if the start goes right for him. Hopefully Webber can give him a breather while Hamilton deals with him.
Don't think you have much to worry about on the straight - there's only a 1m/s speed difference at the top end between Hamilton and the Red Bulls. Hamilton's best chance will be both early and late on the prime tyres - the McLaren warms them after 1 lap instead of the two that Red Bull need, and historically has looked after the tyres a fraction better so may be able to push them again at the end of the stint.

Edit: Well Hamilton's best chance will be the start, but after that the above holds.

mx_tifoso
mx_tifoso
0
Joined: 30 Nov 2006, 05:01
Location: North America

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

Esteban Gutierrez hanging out in the Sauber garage. Hopefully he's just using them to get into F1 and doesn't seriously consider staying there. Why is he in the Sauber garage you might ask? Well he drives for the ART racing team, which is rumored to be buying Sauber.

Image

Is Valencia the only track with covered parking for the team trucks?
Image
Forum guide: read before posting

"You do it, then it's done." - Kimi Räikkönen

Por las buenas soy amigo, por las malas soy campeón.

User avatar
WhiteBlue
92
Joined: 14 Apr 2008, 20:58
Location: WhiteBlue Country

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1 ... ent-27.pdf

Above PDF from the FiA confirms that Webber was fined € 10,000 for an unsafe release during qualifying. I missed that one. Anybody know who was in his path?
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best .............................. organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)

manchild
manchild
12
Joined: 03 Jun 2005, 10:54

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

Where's his greatness? I've tried to scroll down the qualifying results list but my mouse overheated. :lol:

It will be an epic battle for 13th place between Sutil, Liuzzi, best driver of all times, Alguersuari and Kobayashi. :lol:

User avatar
siskue2005
70
Joined: 11 May 2007, 21:50

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

WhiteBlue wrote:http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1 ... ent-27.pdf

Above PDF from the FiA confirms that Webber was fined € 10,000 for an unsafe release during qualifying. I missed that one. Anybody know who was in his path?
when did that happen? i didnt see it

and BTW somethng tells me today's race is gonna be a borefest like Brahrain :?

User avatar
Mr Alcatraz
-27
Joined: 18 May 2008, 15:10
Location: San Diego Ca. USA

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

WhiteBlue wrote:Image
Image

I hope that Vettel can hold the top position through the race. The RB6 is the fastest car around the circuit but it is dreadfully slow in the speed trap and in sector II with the long straight. I'm afraid that Hamilton will be able to jump both Red Bulls on the long back straight.

Seb will not be able to save much tyres there. He will need to push for a gap if the start goes right for him. Hopefully Webber can give him a breather while Hamilton deals with him.
Seb will have the pace. I would be more concerned about the bumpy nature of the race track. The durability of the RB6 may be the only issue he faces the whole race (and of course the tyres)
Those who believe in telekinetics raise my hand

segedunum
segedunum
0
Joined: 03 Apr 2007, 13:49

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

myurr wrote:People really overplay the benefit he had from not making it back to the pits, quoting things like 0.2 seconds advantage by not carrying a laps worth of fuel. This conveniently overlooks that he actually made it most of the way back round that final lap so in fact was just one straight away from the pits.
If they didn't need to do it they wouldn't have done it.
Then in the race the Red Bulls just did not have the pace.
They did have the pace. The problem was that they completely misunderstood how much the hard tyre would degrade and how much the track would rubber in. It was a race of tyre management that McLaren got right, not because they had any significant pace.
Let's see if I'm any better at predictions than you have been!
I already have. I predicted before the season even started that Red Bull would have a significant performance advantage and I was jumped on by die-hard McLaren fans telling me how it was only McLaren that had the innovative aerodynamic ideas (i.e. the F-duct basically).

Giblet
Giblet
5
Joined: 19 Mar 2007, 01:47
Location: Canada

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

If you you can't manage/understand your tires and go slow in the race, you don't have the pace unfortunately.

And as for the 1m/s advantage on the straights that someone mentioned, that is without a tow. 1m/s is pretty big advantage on a long straight with a car a scant few meters long while in the draft.
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

User avatar
zgred
9
Joined: 16 Mar 2009, 13:02

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

Image

Image

User avatar
zgred
9
Joined: 16 Mar 2009, 13:02

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

Image

Giblet
Giblet
5
Joined: 19 Mar 2007, 01:47
Location: Canada

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

Wow glad mark walked away
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

User avatar
zgred
9
Joined: 16 Mar 2009, 13:02

Re: European GP 2010 - Valencia

Post

Image
Last edited by zgred on 27 Jun 2010, 14:30, edited 2 times in total.