Hungarian GP 2010 - Hungaroring

[marcush.]

but those two did it better ,they came out first usually...

[WhiteBlue]

Just read what you have said and tell me if it makes any sense at all. To me it doesn't. It is biased speculation at best and I would be impolite to tell what it is at worst.

You can be guaranteed that Vettel will try to drive someone off the road at the start.

How do you know what Vettel will try. I can say with a lot better probability of being right that he never had any intention to take Webber off the road in Silverstone. He is much too intelligent to do such a thing.

That guy doesn't know how to start a race without trying to take someone out, he's terrible about that and hopefully he'll take himself out again.

That assertion is completely false. Vettel knows very well how to make good starts. He is been in F1 long enough to make ten good starts for every one that he had problems with. And he hasn't taken himself out. He had a racing accident with Hamilton in Silverstone despite leaving Hamilton enough room. He did nothing wrong at all. Just bad luck.

Lunging isn't really smart and he's screwed himself out of good starts because of it.

Again speculative and far off the truth. Vettel's last two start were primarily bad because the car bogged down by a bad combination of clutch and torque. His steering had very little at all to do with loosing the track positions. They start with 8 m staggered. Making a defensive move like he did can never cost him 8 or 16 m. This is just a very bad but transparent myth that people created who like to bash Sebastian. And I'm not going to sit here and read this stuff without speaking up.

Sebastian just drove a beautiful qualifying lap today beating his team mate by four tenth of a second and not only once. His next best lap was also three tenth of a second faster. So he does it consistently. If people were fair I would read some praise for four pole positions in a row. Instead I read mostly negative stuff and get crucified for rejecting some of the biased comments.

[godlameroso]

I have a feeling one of the Red Bulls will suffer mechanical woes, one of the Ferrari's in second place, and maybe a Mclaren in third.

[Goran2812]

WhiteBlue, why are you defending Sebastian so eagerly?
Does that give you some sort of satisfaction or what?
Enjoy what your favorite drives does on track,and don't mind comments
made by people that you don't know or don't care about!
I'm an Alonso fan,but i stopped talking back directly to people who bash him...
Relax and enjoy the show mate! That's all there is to it!

[WhiteBlue]

Good advise actually. I just occasionally get carried away when I have to read too much stuff that is obviously blown out of proportion or simply false. I'm back in ignore mode now.

[Goran2812]

Good advise actually. I just occasionally get carried away when I have to read too much stuff that is obviously blown out of proportion or simply false. I'm back in ignore mode now.

yeah,I know the feeling really well... But, places like theese would probably be a little boring without stuff like that happening I guess...

[mr moda]

Good advise actually. I just occasionally get carried away when I have to read too much stuff that is obviously blown out of proportion or simply false. I'm back in ignore mode now.

Thankyou. Really I mean that WB. Although I cant see it lasting too long. [-X [-X

[ringo]

Good advise actually. I just occasionally get carried away when I have to read too much stuff that is obviously blown out of proportion or simply false. I'm back in ignore mode now.

Vettel was one of the most loved drivers on the track, what happened?

English sport fans, seem to be very overly passionate about things happening outside of the sport itself like the driver's behavior and opinions. That is what i gather; band wagonists maybe.
They like one driver one day, then he does or says something, media blows it out of proportion, and then he loses his fan base and turns to a villain.
At least this is the impression i get; the way how Hamitlon, Webber and Vettel have been perceived over the last 2 years or so.
The same can be said about Nico, he had no respect until he started to open a can of whoopass on mikey.
Just bandwagonism, if Nico runs micheal into a wall , then all anger will be diverted from Vettel. Or even better, if Button rams Hamilton off track.

[Ray]

WB, I don't care what you think or what your bias does to get your panties in a knot. Vettel has screwed himself out of bad finishes at the drop of the flag because he's too worried about what the other guys are doing or where they are on track. He needs to get his revs right and his clutch release down pat THEN worry about defending his position. Two bad starts and lost races aren't 'bad luck,' they are a direct result of qhat hes done at the start of those races. He's made bad starts because he's tried to force drivers to lift or concede the lead and it cost him in two races (so far). Two races can be a start of a trend and there is nothing to suggest he won't do it again. Your bias is showing, again, for German drivers no matter how bad they screw up. Vettel needs to quit driving people to the wall and get his damn starts figured out, that's the truth no matter how much you desperately wish it was bad luck. He's made two very stupid mistakes and I'm willing to bet he'll do it again.

[thestig84]

Does anyone usually follow the race on twitter? Mine isnt working...will the be the 1st tweet free race for a while? Ill miss it!

[komninosm]

This race will be a snooze fest. Why aren't they banning the flexible wings of Ferrari and Red Bull already? It's atrocious.
I remember when Renault had active suspension and they banned that and I kinda liked that being an engineer, I want stuff like that on my car. But this cheating flexible wing must go already.

[WhiteBlue]

Ray, you are still not getting it. The sequence of events is a bad start and then a defending move. Without a bad start there would not be a need for a defending move. Vettel simply has to make a good start - which he hopefully will - and all will be peaches. Your suggestion that he gets a bad start because he isn't focussing on his revs is a bit funny. Christian Horner suggested in an interview that it was a technical problem. Sky explained the sequence how they automate the start with the twin clutch levers. They find the sweet spot with one lever, they pull the second clutch lever and then they drop the second clutch simply on the given target revs. This makes the clutch engage at the setting they have previously found with the first lever. Sebastian's steering wheel had a malfunction which they have fixed now. So don't be surprised if you do not see a defensive move.

[ell66]

how does everyone see the start going?
i can see lewis going upto 3rd behind vettel and alonso.
dirty side is not the place to be...coupled with the lengh down to the first corner.

[WhiteBlue]

Track temp is up at 46 °C. Wind 3 mps from two o' clock at the start.

[WhiteBlue]

Well done Seb! Alonso got Webber.