Ferrari F2012

[FakeAlonso]

@Crucial_Xtreme

Crucial what do you think about this? Is Fry so pessimistic or he is being realistic?

"I think Red Bull are ahead of the rest at the moment," Fry says. "Maybe half a second. We're guessing about fuel levels used in testing but I would say Red Bull are between five- and seven-tenths ahead of everyone else. I think it will be Red Bull, then McLaren and Lotus close together, and then us somewhere."

[scuderiaF2012]

i truly can't see us in worse shape then lotus, and 4th fastest team
i think he's being cautious of his words, but in NO way i think we're in that bad of a shape

i do believe that red bull is fastest and that we'll probably be fighting with Mclaren for the first 3-4 races until we get our RED BEAST sorted out and i think afterwards we'll be the TEAM TO BEAT

[Crucial_Xtreme]

@Crucial_Xtreme

Crucial what do you think about this? Is Fry so pessimistic or he is being realistic?

"I think Red Bull are ahead of the rest at the moment," Fry says. "Maybe half a second. We're guessing about fuel levels used in testing but I would say Red Bull are between five- and seven-tenths ahead of everyone else. I think it will be Red Bull, then McLaren and Lotus close together, and then us somewhere."

I think he's being cautious & pessimistic. Different people on the team are saying different things. At least we'll get a slight clue to the pace of the car soon. And of course a better picture next weekend as well.

[FakeAlonso]

@Crucial_Xtreme

Crucial what do you think about this? Is Fry so pessimistic or he is being realistic?

"I think Red Bull are ahead of the rest at the moment," Fry says. "Maybe half a second. We're guessing about fuel levels used in testing but I would say Red Bull are between five- and seven-tenths ahead of everyone else. I think it will be Red Bull, then McLaren and Lotus close together, and then us somewhere."

I think he's being cautious & pessimistic. Different people on the team are saying different things. At least we'll get a slight clue to the pace of the car soon. And of course a better picture next weekend as well.

As I said in my earliest posts different people from the team are saying different things and Fry is the most pessimistic. I hope he is sandbagging but we will see soon where we stand.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

Thanks to SCUDmissile.

What will happen to the Ferrari in Melbourne? The specialist magazine 'auto motor a sport', in Germany, has even ranked as the seventh power of the world, behind the front of the Sauber and Toro Rosso, based on the results of winter testing. In Melbourne, Fernando Alonso looks calm and relaxed, or perhaps resigned: "Felipe Massa has said we can get on the podium. I believe that we have yet to find much in this car, we are not yet 100 percent. And perhaps in this race will not be as fast as someone else. But let's not forget that two years ago took 7:00 to 8:00 tenths qualifying last year and even 1 "4" If this is comforting ...

On the other hand, in line with the analysis made ​​by Autosprint, Alonso acknowledges that not everything is bad about F2012: "Surely the high speed corners are our strong point, as well as the ability to quickly pull out the best from the tires, the first lap. " That Ferrari was well on the fast, in Barcelona, ​​had revealed the GPS data of the opposing teams. But why, then, the times did not come out? Do Fernan explains: "In braking, traction out of slow corners, if you change a spring or a rod may earn a few cents. If you change a tab in the diffuser immediately remove a few tenths. "

Which may mean that the aerodynamics of the F2012 works well when the load is to generate the entire car, at speed. In sections lenses, however, still suffers very aerodynamic effect of the exhaust, despite the new rules. By changing the orientation of its exhaust system, Ferrari has lost much, but how? "More than anything we've lost weeks of work" Massa admits. "But we could not go forward with these discharges, especially because the tires overheated."

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[Crucial_Xtreme]

Even more new pieces arriving for the F2012 today. )


image via F1 Writers

[radosav]

lunch packets?

[donskar]

Those "new" pieces (IF they are new) better work well.

I think it will be Red Bull, then McLaren and Lotus close together, and then us somewhere.

Fry is the man in charge, if he is not sandbagging, and "somewhere" behinf at least three other teams is the best he can do, then we'll soon be speculating on his replacement. I'll stick my neck WAY out and say we should keep our eyes on Ben Butler and Giorgio Ascanelli.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Fry is the man in charge, if he is not sandbagging, and "somewhere" behinf at least three other teams is the best he can do, then we'll soon be speculating on his replacement. I'll stick my neck WAY out and say we should keep our eyes on Ben Butler and Giorgio Ascanelli.

Frankly you have no idea what Fry is doing or isn't doing. Furthermore, his boss claims something completely different. Pat may very well have an idea of where he thinks the team is, but that doesn't make it true. And Fry will not be fired or demoted should the F2012 be a failure this year. Mark my words.

[Forza Ferrari]

They just said on tv that FERRARI were disapointed with their initial suspension layout and that they switched to push rod at front...

absolut BS, right???

[Crucial_Xtreme]

They just said on tv that FERRARI were disapointed with their initial suspension layout and that they switched to push rod at front...

absolut BS, right???

Yes. They still have pull rod on both front & rear.

[Redragon]

Wathing it on spanish tv and listening radio 5

[Crucial_Xtreme]

The acer exhaust has been cut and moved forward and in

The exhaust right now is the same as in the last Barcelona test.


edit: RedDragon no worries mate. I can't say 100%. But from what I've seen they look the same. We see more as session progresses.

[Redragon]

The acer exhaust has been cut and moved forward and in

The exhaust right now is the same as in the last Barcelona test.

Sorry, but from the tv they looked shorter

[donskar]

Fry is the man in charge, if he is not sandbagging, and "somewhere" behind at least three other teams is the best he can do, then we'll soon be speculating on his replacement. I'll stick my neck WAY out and say we should keep our eyes on Ben Butler and Giorgio Ascanelli.

Frankly you have no idea what Fry is doing or isn't doing. Furthermore, his boss claims something completely different. Pat may very well have an idea of where he thinks the team is, but that doesn't make it true. And Fry will not be fired or demoted should the F2012 be a failure this year. Mark my words.

Sure, I'll mark your words. I'll write them in water. OK?

BTW, I didn't claim to know what Fry is doing or isn't doing. Do you? I responded to his public statements. Do you deny he said what is reported?

If you are Fry's boss, are you satisfied that Fry "may . . have an idea of where he thinks the team is, but that doesn't make it true?" I respect your passion for Ferrai and I share it (since the 1960's), but I ask you to put aside passion and think this through. Imagine a meeting between Fry and Domenicali or whoever his immediate superior might be. Boss says, "How are we doing on the exhaust situation?" Are you suggesting it would be perfectly all right for Fry to say "I think we'll have a solution in 3 weeks that will provide 15 points of down force. But I have no idea whether we really will."???

You say "his boss claims something completely different." I've been around long enough to know that when you and your boss publicly disagree, you better have your resume in order. Do you disagree with that?

BTW, I don't think Ferrari will fire Fry in the near term (I certainly hope they do NOT fire him), but the team needs to work with their media people about messaging and PR. Being a little confused is OK. Making it public is NOT.