Team: Pat Fry (TD), Nikolas Tombazis (CD), Stefano Domenicali (MD)
Drivers: Fernando Alonso (5), Felipe Massa (6)
You mean where Fernando opened the DRS too early and the rear stepped out? No big deal, it happens. Happened to others last year too.FakeAlonso wrote:
Well cant say different style, this was a comparison on the last corner before alonso lost the back of the car. To me the car looks difficult to drive but in the same time the car looked strong. Hopefully with some set up they can optimize it for qualy and race.
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According to other team engineers they say it sheds drag from the beam wing and not the front wing.myurr wrote:Imagine as you are exiting a corner and wanting to activate the DRS but that drops a load of rear downforce and could make the car snap into oversteer. Being able to dump front wing downforce at the same time keeps the car in balance and gives the drivers confidence to activate the DRS earlier. This carries a speed benefit down the entire straight.
I agree with you that JB and Alonso have totally different driving styles but I was referring to the instability of the car. Also the comparison was made by Sky UK so probably is better to compare LW. Saying that I still think the McLaren looked more stable on both drivers.timbo wrote:Well, what I meant is that you absolutely have to give JB a stable car, so with that in mind you do all your development work and he just won't push the car if it doesn't feel right to him, Alonso might be much more adventurous with what he does with the car, so having a stable car might nor be the first priority for him. You should probably compare Lewis to Alonso to have better impression on what cars are like.FakeAlonso wrote:Well cant say different style, this was a comparison on the last corner before alonso lost the back of the car. To me the car looks difficult to drive but in the same time the car looked strong. Hopefully with some set up they can optimize it for qualy and race.
I agree that the cars feels like it moves a lot, but just how much it's tough to deduce comparing JB and Alonso.
EDIT- Crucial if the last corner is from DRS that is good news. But I saw the car on other parts and still in my opinion need some balancing sorted out. LW on-board for comparisonCrucial_Xtreme wrote:You mean where Fernando opened the DRS too early and the rear stepped out? No big deal, it happens. Happened to others last year too.FakeAlonso wrote:
Well cant say different style, this was a comparison on the last corner before alonso lost the back of the car. To me the car looks difficult to drive but in the same time the car looked strong. Hopefully with some set up they can optimize it for qualy and race.
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We'll have an idea of where Ferrari stands in the pecking order. IMHO, it's impossible to tell the true order in just one race. Especially at Albert Park. I personally think the true order doesn't become clear until China or Spain. But we'll get a decent idea in Sepang as it's much more aero dependent of a track.Nando wrote:It´s just hours away now, let´s get some facts in before we go any further.
When it says 00.00 in Q3 we will know exactly where Ferrari stands in the pecking order.
Going by practice sessions on a drying track is even worse then trying to decipher pre-season testing.
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Perhaps, except that this was FP2 and I saw a car with inherent handling issues being exposed by low traction.Nando wrote:
Going by practice sessions on a drying track is even worse then trying to decipher pre-season testing.
Their handling issues are because a lack of downforce. Not because of a pull rod front suspension.munudeges wrote:If they have handling issues, as they seem to appear to, then I don't see how having a pull-rod front suspension will help. You can do many more things with a push-rod to tune handling.
Got any references to confirm that? Link please?Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Their handling issues are because a lack of downforce. Not because of a pull rod front suspension.munudeges wrote:If they have handling issues, as they seem to appear to, then I don't see how having a pull-rod front suspension will help. You can do many more things with a push-rod to tune handling.
edited.........forty-two wrote:Got any references to confirm that? Link please?Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Their handling issues are because a lack of downforce. Not because of a pull rod front suspension.munudeges wrote:If they have handling issues, as they seem to appear to, then I don't see how having a pull-rod front suspension will help. You can do many more things with a push-rod to tune handling.
With respect, you don't have the time to dig up the "quotes", but are happy to make assertions such as those above without referencing them.Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
I'm not going to dig up the quotes, find them. The team have clearly said their problem is a lack of rear downforce(mainly die to exhaust launch not working as planned) and not the suspension. Look back through the thread, the links are there.
