USF1 -- F1's All-American Challenger

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WhiteBlue wrote:Speaking of confused people.
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What did USF1 have to start with? Nothing but two guys who were determined to tackle the whole shebang and get it done. They had to build everything from scratch. Every office, work shop, computer file, HR, manufacturing technology, European base, aero testing, crash testing and logistics had to be re invented to reflect their unique effort of doing it from the US.
Not to mention no relevant xperience whatsoever. The reason why some jerks at this forum laughed at the whole idea.
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xpensive wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:What did USF1 have to start with? Nothing but two guys who were determined to tackle the whole shebang and get it done. They had to build everything from scratch. Every office, work shop, computer file, HR, manufacturing technology, European base, aero testing, crash testing and logistics had to be re invented to reflect their unique effort of doing it from the US.
Not to mention no relevant xperience whatsoever. The reason why some jerks at this forum laughed at the whole idea.
Quite a story if they make it. If they get the cars to do a parade lap they will have legally participated. I will send them a Jamaican flag. "Cool runnings"! 8) 8) 8)
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If they do manage to make it, i want to see some photos of forum members eating their hats with a knife and fork :P

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WhiteBlue wrote:What did USF1 have to start with? Nothing but two guys who were determined to tackle the whole shebang and get it done. They had to build everything from scratch. Every office, work shop, computer file, HR, manufacturing technology, European base, aero testing, crash testing and logistics had to be re invented to reflect their unique effort of doing it from the US.
so far I see all this efforts as another example of american arrogance - "we want to have it done and so it will, even if we have no f...ing idea how to make it work"

one of course can appreciate the unique approach they've taken but at the end of the day what really matters is the result. so far we have less then a month to the first race and we do not know if USF1 challenger even exists, not to mention if it can survive a lap around the circuit.

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To make a lap you need to pass scrutineering first.

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madtown77 wrote:Any idiot who has an engineering degree could have looked at that wing design on paper and with a couple of scratch calculations have told you it would fail. So how dumb do you have to be to miss that as a group of professionals?
Keep to topic please. However, I can't let that erroneous statement go uncorrected.

Get your facts straight. The section of wing that failed is prescribed by the regs. Anyone saying it was too thin hasn't noticed that every team's wing is identical in that area. How dumb do you have to be to miss that? #-o

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Back to topic.

I'm curious that USF1 haven't released a sneak pic of the manufacturing, or perhaps the cossie arriving at the infamous BBQ loading dock? They may be late, but to show progress would diffuse much of this gossip.

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Progress videos, pictures, BBQ reports seem to have got a little thin on the ground, is anybody turning up to work anymore?

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richard_leeds wrote:
madtown77 wrote:Any idiot who has an engineering degree could have looked at that wing design on paper and with a couple of scratch calculations have told you it would fail. So how dumb do you have to be to miss that as a group of professionals?
Keep to topic please. However, I can't let that erroneous statement go uncorrected.

Get your facts straight. The section of wing that failed is prescribed by the regs. Anyone saying it was too thin hasn't noticed that every team's wing is identical in that area. How dumb do you have to be to miss that? #-o
Easy now Richard, have you tried to read the FIA bodywork regs? If you could please help me by pointing out precisely where that section is described, I'd be grateful. Believe me, I have tried but that's Lawyer stuff, holy crap.

Perhaps that is USF1s problem, KA is still pulling his hair over the regs? :lol:
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The Saints have won a Superbowl, Hell('s Kitchen) is frozen over and USF1 STILL doesn't have a car? What's it gonna take?
noname wrote:so far I see all this efforts as another example of american arrogance - "we want to have it done and so it will, even if we have no f...ing idea how to make it work"
Yeah, ok, fair enough, but I get the impression Windsor was the one who thought they could imagine a car out of thin air.

And if they had any money left, they'd be able to pull off that other great old American way of getting things done: throwing money at your problems. Pay ACG to design whatever you need them to, other partners, etc. But if they can't get anything done in house and they're out of seed money, well it's easy then to see why people would think they're in the throes. Taking pleasure in other team's safety failings won't make USF1's situation any more palatable, either.

You know, I thought I'd be embarrassed if they showed up in Bahrain and were over 2 seconds off the pace. But not even getting there? I mean, there goes our GP for a while, right? All because it struck PW's fancy to play Principal...
xpensive wrote:If Ian can find the fitting lyrics, like "Sitting in the pit lane, eyeing lucky Mike with bad intent...", then ok I guess?
"Nothing Is Easy" is the one that comes to mind for me, perhaps they should've taken it under advisement.
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xpensive wrote: Easy now Richard ...
Am now easy!

There's nothing worse than armcahir pundits accusing hard working teams of being idiots.

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Mysticf1 wrote:If they do manage to make it, i want to see some photos of forum members eating their hats with a knife and fork :P
+1

and a nomex suit, too :wink:
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a promise is a promise ...
mind you the bloody naive chaps still believin USF1 will have two cars in Bahrain have not promised to do anything if that does not materialise.. :lol:

btw ,does a Lopez pedalled Dallara also count ???

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noname wrote:
so far I see all this efforts as another example of american arrogance -
Painting with a pretty broad brush there Bro!
That is almost true. I'm sure you will find that American Arrogance is projected by our government. As a people, very few informed Amercans buy into this legacy left over from "dub-a-u" or ever did!
BTW Peter Windsor is a Brit!!!!!
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Tazio wrote:BTW Peter Windsor is a Brit!!!!!
Guess again.