Red Bull RB7 Renault

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wesley123 wrote:it is an optical illusion. I am not seeing anything assymetric about the diffuser

I was wondering about this lines : ( Sorry for crude paint lines, I have to be quick.)

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raymondu999
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I see; you're saying the cleanup "strakes" are asymmetric? If you watched the vid though Fans were just snapping bits off the car whenever/wherever they could; so that could be it? :?
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I agree with wesley: the fins are symmetrical. Maybe kalinka you hve been misleaded by the fact that the floor is stepped.
The plank (light brown color) is at the same longitudinal station as the kink line, but is 50+10mm lower: that should help you put things in perspective.
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I'm (almost) sure that the fins had to be symmetrical, I just can't explain what I see here. If you look at the yellow lines that I draw, it seems that those fins are clearly assymetrical. Maybe it's an optical illusion, but if you hide out the stepped floor with your hand, or with a piece of paper, you seee the same shape. It's not the cause of the illusion. The edges of the fins are too smooth, so I doubt their shape is due to damage. It's visible on marekk's second picture too.

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Optical illusion.

The nearside strakes are curving toward the camera so it is hard to detect the curvature, hence they appear straight. The far strakes are curving away so it is easy to see the curvature.

It is also complicated by the central section tapering on plan. All those surfaces in front of the kink line are flat (ie parallel to ground) but look curved. So when you get to the central part of the diffuser, it could be a flat plate with curved edges, or a curved plate with straight edges, or somewhere between the two. Its impossible to tell.
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kalinka
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Yeah, I see it now. It's because the fin that is closer to the viewer curves towards the viewer and the far side fin curves outward, so that's the illusion I saw. It's like all optical illusions : when you figure it out you can't see it like before...

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Probably is a super optical illusion. I remember the MP4-25 thread last year had 10 or 20 pages discussing what seemed to be 1 side of the FW having a higher AoA than the other
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raymondu999 wrote:Probably is a super optical illusion. I remember the MP4-25 thread last year had 10 or 20 pages discussing what seemed to be 1 side of the FW having a higher AoA than the other
Crazy part is that was actually this year, wasn't it? The MP4-26 thread... How time flies when you're having fun!

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raymondu999
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Good Lord was it really? I could've sworn it was last year
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LotusF1
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well he did crash so it could be that one is bent, but im sure that they are symmetrical...

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the floor is very simple.
Just 1 or 2 things i notice with it that may be an advantage.
It's the 2 big strakes. I'm not sure why they are curved like this at the front.
This puts greater bias to the outer part which is blown. Their shape benefit the blown outer part.
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Ferraripilot
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I believe RB7 has yet another cascade on the front wing.

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Looks like completely new wing it curls up where it joins the uprights
And bigger cascades aswell

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Red Bull testing 2 new FW. The new wings curls towards the central section

New curled FW with the "r"-shaped McLaren style cascade
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New curled FW with the same cascade attached directly to the existing
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raymondu999
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They debuted that at Monza actually. What I find interesting is that Vettel has the r-shaped second cascade, but look closely at the photo of Mark there; it almost seems like he's testing a cascade similar to what the RB5 had (the extra long blade-shaped cascade)
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