McLaren MP4-29 Mercedes

[theWPTformula]

It's all well and good saying what you think of the nose due to its aesthetics but McLaren have the data and hundreds of smart people with terabytes of computing power and streams of wind tunnel figures! They will know what's working well and what isn't.

It'll be to do with the cohesion of all the parts as a unit rather than an individual flaw. Perhaps there was too much emphasis on designing the mushroom suspension fairings and the whole car was built around them, but only they know the answer to that.

[Xero]

In all honestly, I think people are placing too much hope/belief/expectation on the rear suspension. It's a nice detail, but not what I'd call a critical component to the overall performance of the car. Only when they fully understand the current package and improve it to it's full potential will the suspension begin to give them an edge over other teams. Just my thought.

I still have hope for this car yet, there are signs of improvement in the past 2 races.

[Pierce89]

Because they thought McLarens high downforce package would have an edge with the rear butterflies providing more downforce than the other teams can get, since it's not really a circuit where effiecency is vital. Unfortunately, Mclaren don't seem to have brought a high downforce package bar sticking some extra wing angle on, which tbh is a shot in the foot.

Nobody brought a "high downforce package". That's because they've lost enough df that they've run close to max df at every race.

[PhillipM]

Merc did.

[adrianjordan]

Merc did.

And rbr too...

[wesley123]

Merc did.

And rbr too...

Arguable. The days that teams would really bolt on whatever wing they can find are over.

[mclaren_mircea]

Eric Boullier said that in Monaco on mp4-29 were "a lot of mechanical upgrades". What can be these mechanical upgrades if he said "a lot"?

[theWPTformula]

Eric Boullier said that in Monaco on mp4-29 were "a lot of mechanical upgrades". What can be these mechanical upgrades if he said "a lot"?

Suspension geometry, brake drums, the actual carbon layup of the wishbones are all possibilities. I think their aim was to get the front tyres into a better window to maximise their downforce. If you can't get the tyres up to temperature it doesn't matter what downforce levels you have. You could argue that the more downforce generated the higher the tyre temperature but Mercedes last year proved that this is not necessarily the case when Red Bull arguably had the most downforce but could still control their tyre temperatures (albeit after the Silverstone disaster).

[Duke]

I am now also of the opinion that this is a transition year

About the 5th in a row now?

[ell66]

Hamilton reckons MP4-29 should work here!

“Red Bull have a very good downforce package. And I also think McLaren will be good.

“They have something on their downforce setting, those weird things at the rear.

“I don't know why they're not faster with it, but Jenson said something about the tyre’s working window.

“They'll have a better weekend as well.”



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Well Jense and Lewis got this one wrong. I wonder why when we could all see that the lack of DF would hurt Mclaren at Monaco, these two thought Macca would be fast. It doesn't speak highly for the drivers' ability to understand the technical side of racing.

Pretty positive they have more idea of what there talking about than some arm chair fan.
Strong assumptions dude.....

[flyboy2160]

The off-topic posts about computing power, etc., got moved to the team thread.

[Lucky]

[timbo]

Looks like a new nose?

[McMrocks]

Looks like a new nose?

It's (at least to me) the old nose. Introduced in Bahrain

[gary123]

Butterfly only on the lower part of the arm.
They trying to save fuel removing drag.