Ferrari F14T

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George-Jung
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What happens for example with an updated front wing, if it doesn't work?
Will they destroy it, throw it away? Or can they recycle it?

mclaren_mircea
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George-Jung wrote:What happens for example with an updated front wing, if it doesn't work?
Will they destroy it, throw it away? Or can they recycle it?
They will do further research on it back at the factory in Maranello, they will refine and change components on her, and they will try it again in the following weeks.

konstantin
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new element

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beelsebob wrote:Looks like Ferrari (as well as Merc) are going for overhangs off the back of the side pods. I wonder if there's some benefit in managing to keep the air flow over the top of the diffuser nicely contained somehow.
You see the sharp drop off of the previous side pods exit? That is a point where you have two streams of air moving at two different speeds. There is a distrubance when the two streams meet and off course this mean less aero efficiency. So by extending the cowling more towards the rear you are moving this point backwards where there is less influence on other flow structures downstream of the car. In other words the cleaner your flow structures upstream on the car the better efficiency you can extract from the surfaces and structures downstream of the car.
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rich1701 wrote:The car looks horrible to drive, mainly power oversteer. I was quite frankly astonished how competitive their lap times are considering the amount of correction the drivers have to do. Perhaps this is a good sign if the problems have a reasonably quick solution.
Hopefully, you are right. However, it is not likely to be something as simple as adjustineg suspension geometry (adding negative camber, for example). If the oversteer is the result in abrupt power delivery ( a "peaky" power curve) that could be a much tougher problem to correct.
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donskar wrote:
rich1701 wrote:The car looks horrible to drive, mainly power oversteer. I was quite frankly astonished how competitive their lap times are considering the amount of correction the drivers have to do. Perhaps this is a good sign if the problems have a reasonably quick solution.
Hopefully, you are right. However, it is not likely to be something as simple as adjustineg suspension geometry (adding negative camber, for example). If the oversteer is the result in abrupt power delivery ( a "peaky" power curve) that could be a much tougher problem to correct.
Honda had a similar problem in 85, Williams changed the rear suspension and found a second a lap. It's not as simple as that now though I acknowledge. Wasn't it also the case the honda abrupt power delivery was responsible for Senna's blip blip blip throttle approach? I'm just saying it's possible to adapt yourself around the characteristics of the engine. I can't see why Ferrari can't spread the power delivery a bit more from the ERS with software. Perhaps it's not possible without reducing overall BHP.

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konstantin wrote:new element

http://savepic.net/5418857.jpg
So... was this from fp3?

zioture
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During Qualifying Wheelnut not used, but the sockets of the brakes are new,
It 'was a used engine cover most' great
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Different wheel nuts
Ferrari has used a wheel nut short but closed, it's weird 'cause do not use the old one long to be more' fast in the pit?

infy
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If the blown wheel nut is to reduce drag on the straights then its not needed @ Spain as the straight is very small. Maybe it is used at a cost of down force stability, so only gives an advantage on tracks with many straights.

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Pilatus
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infy wrote:If the blown wheel nut is to reduce drag on the straights then its not needed @ Spain as the straight is very small.
As a matter of fact, start-finish straight in Spain is one of the longest in F1 calendar.

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The blown wheelnuts aid outwash of the front wing, so as much about rear DF as reduciton in drag. I suspect the new conical axle end still allows soem airflow to exit, for a smaller blown effect

jayeshrc
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Pilatus wrote:
infy wrote:If the blown wheel nut is to reduce drag on the straights then its not needed @ Spain as the straight is very small.
As a matter of fact, start-finish straight in Spain is one of the longest in F1 calendar.
its the 6th or 7th longest, so yeah you could say that

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Picture of Ferrari's split exhaust routing (via Racecar-Engineering)

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Find the turbo ;)

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Juzh
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Ted on ferrari's mgu-k apparently outputting more than 120kw during quali:

http://youtu.be/TNRWm5yiEzA?t=5m54s