2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Paa]

I am sometimes wrong of course, like we all are. But will just speculate now and make a bold prediction, after Barcelona updates will work and Mclaren will be slower. Max will take the iniciative and dominate the rest of the season. The rest is history.

Why don't you make a small fortune out of it? I think you would get nice odds on the betting sites.

[organic]

New parts at every race between Jeddah and Imola. Main changes at Jeddah are internal/will go undeclared though

[Wouter]

New parts at every race between Jeddah and Imola. Might not be declared though

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How do you know this?

[Sergej]

according to Autoracer they will bring something to Jeddah, but it may go under undeclared part

https://autoracer.it/it/gp-jeddah-red-b ... s-conferme

not trusting them much though

[organic]

according to Autoracer they will bring something to Jeddah, but it may go under undeclared part

https://autoracer.it/it/gp-jeddah-red-b ... s-conferme

not trusting them much though

To improve weight distribution

There may be a declared floor part too

[organic]

New parts at every race between Jeddah and Imola. Might not be declared though

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How do you know this?

Racingnews365 and autoracer both reported the same thing at the same time independently

supposedly internal changes like in the sidepod to optimize weight distribution and also underfloor parts (this will probably be declared)

https://racingnews365.com/huge-verstapp ... t=13984394

https://autoracer.it/it/gp-jeddah-red-b ... s-conferme

[Wouter]

New parts at every race between Jeddah and Imola. Might not be declared though

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How do you know this?

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Racingnews365 and autoracer both reported the same thing at the same time independently

supposedly internal changes like in the sidepod to optimize weight distribution and also underfloor parts (this will probably be declared)

https://racingnews365.com/huge-verstapp ... t=13984394

https://autoracer.it/it/gp-jeddah-red-b ... s-conferme

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Thank you @Organic. Also thanks for the links.

They reported the same thing because Paolo Filisetti who wrote the article on RN365 is working for both sites.

[Sergej]

Filisetti doesn't work for Autoracer, does he? Anyway he is highly unreliable.

[organic]

Filisetti doesn't work for Autoracer, does he? Anyway he is highly unreliable.

It's not filsetti that wrote the autoracer article and their info is solid especially on the internal changes side

[pantherxxx]

Jeddah's characteristics lean heavily toward front limitation, which could play right into the RB21’s strengths even more than Suzuka. Suzuka's got that mix — especially the first sector with those high-speed S-curves — where it's definitely front-limited, but then you get to the Degners, Spoon, and especially the traction-heavy exit out of the Casio Triangle and onto the main straight, and suddenly the rears start to come into play. Rear-limited tracks are where the RB21 shows its main vulnerability. Jeddah though? That place is a pure front-end-demanding beast. Fast, flowing corners, constant direction changes, and high-speed entries with limited braking zones. With fewer traction-heavy zones, the car’s potential rear tire weaknesses are less exposed. Unless the high track temps throw them off, Red Bull should be seriously strong — especially with how well the RB21 handles front-limited layouts like Jeddah.

[AR3-GP]

I would not say the RB21 suits front limited circuits or that it does not like rear limited circuits anymore than the Mclaren favors these track types. There are so many factors to consider. On the first day of testing in Bahrain when it was much cooler than usual, Red Bull had a similar pace to Mclaren. The car can work in Bahrain, but it was just too hot during the GP weekend.

I think it's just the case that the RB21 does not like hot weather because the tires overheat. If a circuit is hot and has a certain kind of tarmac (all contributing to increasing tire temps), they will do poorly irrespective of front or rear limits.

I think Red Bull will be better in Jeddah simply because it lacks medium speed corners, it's an extremely smooth tarmac with low deg, and Red Bull have a good DRS system. If a rear limited circuit had the same conditions, they would also do well.

[euv2]

New parts at every race between Jeddah and Imola. Might not be declared though

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How do you know this?

Racingnews365 and autoracer both reported the same thing at the same time independently

supposedly internal changes like in the sidepod to optimize weight distribution and also underfloor parts (this will probably be declared)

https://racingnews365.com/huge-verstapp ... t=13984394

https://autoracer.it/it/gp-jeddah-red-b ... s-conferme

Will we notice it if the update works in Jeddah? or will everyone just say the track suited RB21 better. I guess if the weekend doesn't go well, it will definitely take the blame

I'm happy they are bringing updates as fast they can though, even if they are smaller, gives a little bit more hope and some new parts to look forward to every race week.

[Henk_v]

So round 4. A horrible start of the season and a "horror" weekend in Bahrein.

Yet only 1 pt deficit after rond 3 and now 8 pt. 1/3 of a DNF. Less than the point difference between 1st and 3rd in one race. If Norris and Piastri take eachother out in T1 this weekend, Max can keep this pace for another 8 races.

We can discuss omens all we want, but factually, there is no real problemen yet.

Statistics are like mini-skirts, they tease to reveal it all, but still keep the important bits hidden.

The 'correlation' issue that has hit Redbull is so severe that they are relying every race weekend on 'FP session collected track data' to arrive at a base-setup for the car. The task which other teams have already under their belt even before the weekend commences.

That is the speculation, yes. Speculated by the press first and then "admitted" by the team principal.

I do not believe for one second any team would reveal the true state of affairs.

These guys are selling advertising space on cars. They are probably negotiating several long term contracts and the correlation excuse is a very nifty one with a new tunnel under construction.

[Wouter]

Filisetti doesn't work for Autoracer, does he? Anyway he is highly unreliable.

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It's not filsetti that wrote the autoracer article and their info is solid especially on the internal changes side

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Sorry, my fault. I thought Paolo Filisetti is working for Autoracer but it is Paolo D'Alessandro.
Paolo Falisetti is working for the Gazetta dello sport and RN365 and other sites.
Autoracer.it is very solid.

[Vettel165]

Legend.