2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Farnborough]

According to AmuS, Sauber had similar issues in China as well, by the way, and had to raise car height for the race. Just mentioning it, as it's also a Ferrari powered car with a pull rod suspension.

Similar issues, how exactly (beyond raising the ride height)? Teams increase their ride height for a variety of reasons.

Sauber utilizes the same gearbox internals/casing as Ferrari but not the same rear suspension design.

The implication seems to be that this is a universal issue across the Ferrari gearbox but that theory doesn’t seem to be getting much traction at this point.

The gearbox is a "box within a box" if it follows the others in that convention.

Essentially the gearbox "real" is fully contained as unit with differential etc, this whole assembly living INSIDE the car's rear structure that holds the suspension etc.

They were of a whole unit construction but moved away from that with regulation control of gearbox lifing. A crash would/could crack that case and need to replace with a penalty due.
This way, suspension loading during crash CAN damage the outer case, leaving the gearbox "real" intact, so no penalty for replacement of the exoskeleton structural component.

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According to AmuS, Sauber had similar issues in China as well, by the way, and had to raise car height for the race. Just mentioning it, as it's also a Ferrari powered car with a pull rod suspension.

Similar issues, how exactly (beyond raising the ride height)? Teams increase their ride height for a variety of reasons.

Sauber utilizes the same gearbox internals/casing as Ferrari but not the same rear suspension design.

The implication seems to be that this is a universal issue across the Ferrari gearbox but that theory doesn’t seem to be getting much traction at this point.

The article only says "In Shanghai an underbody problem caught the Sauber engineers by surprise. To prevent excessive plank wear, the chassis had to be raised."

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... a-upgrade/

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According to AmuS, Sauber had similar issues in China as well, by the way, and had to raise car height for the race. Just mentioning it, as it's also a Ferrari powered car with a pull rod suspension.

Similar issues, how exactly (beyond raising the ride height)? Teams increase their ride height for a variety of reasons.

Sauber utilizes the same gearbox internals/casing as Ferrari but not the same rear suspension design.

The implication seems to be that this is a universal issue across the Ferrari gearbox but that theory doesn’t seem to be getting much traction at this point.

The article only says "In Shanghai an underbody problem caught the Sauber engineers by surprise. To prevent excessive plank wear, the chassis had to be raised."

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... a-upgrade/

This is not the sauber team thread. The 2 teams are not affiliated and don’t share much of anything aside the engine.

[Formula 1 fan 1996]

In the press conference, someone asked Leclerc if the broken front wing gave him extra pace, and he laughed at them and said there's no way, where did they hear that from?

Is there any news about Ferrari's upgrades for the race in Japan?

Not happening. They said they think they've found better set up potential this weekend, so no need to rush any parts upgrades.

Packages are supposedly slated for Bahrain and Miami.

Okay, thank you for answer and explanation.

[Xyz22]

Do you remember this clownshow?

[atanatizante]

The Italian media has released the rumor saying that the gearbox carbon case is twisting due to increased rear axle load more than was foreseen in the simulations. Thus, by twisting the gearbox housing the suspension has a higher travel (whether it is set softer or harder) and in roll the car is touching the plank more, hence its greater wear than originally estimated. This issue is down to the new pull road front suspension that induce slightly under steer and unloading the front axel the CoP is moving rearwards ...

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[ringo]

That video is nonsense.
Imagine twisting a carbon fiber tube 12 inch in diameter to get 1cm of circumferential displacement?
The amount of load required to do that is a crazy amount. The tyres would compress and the wheel rim touch the ground before that gearbox twists like that.

[Jdn1327]

Basically this video claims that ferrari don't have the ability to control the diff from the driver's steering wheel and this new wheel will make its debut in the next few races...I don't think there is any truth to this...but can someone else maybe shed some light on this?

[ringo]

Ferrari still seems 4th fastest. It remains to be seen if it can run well on race pace with a proper setup.
Russel looks like a solid championship contender now, but it seems tyre deg may not be the W16 strong point.
Lewis and Charles should be able to bag some good points, but the podium is crowded with about 5 cars fighting for P-3.
A serious challenge by Ferrari would require the car to be a clear step ahead of Mercedes and Redbull. That's a huge leap to make from what we are seeing.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Not the best... but it's just FP1 and a handful of laps, let's see if they can improve more this weekend than they did the last two.

Ferrari still seems 4th fastest. It remains to be seen if it can run well on race pace with a proper setup.
Russel looks like a solid championship contender now, but it seems tyre deg may not be the W16 strong point.
Lewis and Charles should be able to bag some good points, but the podium is crowded with about 5 cars fighting for P-3.
A serious challenge by Ferrari would require the car to be a clear step ahead of Mercedes and Redbull. That's a huge leap to make from what we are seeing.

Feels a bit painful to go from discussing podiums and wins the majority of weekends last season, to just discussing whether they can get good points or not.

But I guess that's the current reality

[.Bole]

Someone needs to be reponsible to how we got lost after such a strong 2nd half of last year. Mercedes after being --- for 3 years suddenly looks much better than we.
Someone really needs to be responsible for decision to change completely car concept at end of reg

[Xyz22]

McL is just too quick.

[.Bole]

Our car was king in slow corners, now we look the worst on whole grid and dont compensate anywhere else.
Classic maranello --- circus

[Xyz22]

Predictig another P5-P6 in quali with a perfect execution. Tsunoda and RBs look “dangerous”.

[.Bole]

Will they finally admit that car has no potential