VW were leading the race for Max Moselys 'world engine' I recall.
Maybe VW?
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McLaren and Honda have confirmed that they will form a multi-year Formula 1 technology partnership. From the start of the 2015 season, McLaren's Formula 1 cars will race using Honda engines and energy recovery systems, renewing an association that became one of the most successful and powerful in Formula 1 history during the 1980s and ’90s.
Now there's a quotable quote! Good on ya, mate!Paranoia, speculation - at the end of the day it's just an air pump made from exotic material.
spinmastermic wrote:What about Ford? They are really pushing their Eco Boost technology and branding.
I respectfully disagree. Perhaps in the first year of the new engine regs, one engine might have an advantage over another, but the regs are so tightly written that soon all the major contenders will be producing engines that are within an eyelash of each other in terms of horsepower, torque, fuel economy and so forth, which is precisely what happened with the current V8's.exciting times!
That's certainly a nice way to get around the testing regulations for F1 - run the engine in another class entirely. If that is indeed the case, how long before other teams catch on.....actually.....dren wrote:Also, it sounds like Honda may run the engine in LMP1 next year. They've had one banging around in an LMP car for half a year is the rumor.
With Caterham locked into Renault (who also supply RedBull & Torro Rosso for 2014 onwards) - and Caterham having an obvious link to RedBull (The similarities in design are unsurprisingly similar to Red Bull's design philosophies. In essence, it has the same drivetrain, as Caterham now have a Renault engine coupled to a Red Bull gearbox. This also mandates the pullrod suspension at the rear end of the car.) could an on track testing scenario occur - all legal? Interesting times.Caterham has revealed that its deal with the Greaves Motorsport LMP2 squad for this year's Le Mans 24 Hours is part of an evaluation of an entry into the customer prototype market. Gascoyne, who no longer has an involvement in the Caterham F1 team, is believed to be looking at both the LMP1 and P2 categories. No timescale has been set for the project, but a car would unlikely to be up and running before 2015. Source
They are also doing it on the cheap. They are actually cutting expensive motorsport programmes. WRC is a fraction of a cost of participation in F1 yet they axed that going for things that are cheaper still (state-side). Current Ford management doesn't seem to believe in RoI of high profile traditional motorsports. Only NASCAR is left. Everything else is drifting and similar stuff '4 da kids'.spinmastermic wrote:What about Ford? They are really pushing their Eco Boost technology and branding.
Another interesting link is that both Renault and Nissan announced their Le Mans programmes this year. Renault as Alpine (which is, so far, just a re-badging exercise), and Nissan with a yet unknown experimental car for 'Garage 56' next year with a possibility of follow-up proper competition programme by Nismo (hopefully LMP1).Cam wrote:With Caterham locked into Renault (who also supply RedBull & Torro Rosso for 2014 onwards) - and Caterham having an obvious link to RedBull (The similarities in design are unsurprisingly similar to Red Bull's design philosophies. In essence, it has the same drivetrain, as Caterham now have a Renault engine coupled to a Red Bull gearbox. This also mandates the pullrod suspension at the rear end of the car.) could an on track testing scenario occur - all legal? Interesting times.
The other teams or manufacturers have no need to test in LMP1 next year because their 2014 machines will legally run Mercedes, Ferrari or Renault V6 turbo engines.Cam wrote:That's certainly a nice way to get around the testing regulations for F1 - run the engine in another class entirely. If that is indeed the case, how long before other teams catch on.....actually.....dren wrote:Also, it sounds like Honda may run the engine in LMP1 next year. They've had one banging around in an LMP car for half a year is the rumor.
That would be a mighty smart move by McLaren. Not only would they get a guy who knew what Lotus had been doing to make an awesome car, but they'd get a guy who had been able to run unlimited aero testing for a decent long time. That would be insanely valuable.Pup wrote:This would be an interesting twist, if true: Turun Sanomat claims that James Allison has actually been hired by Honda. From the poor translation, it sounds like he's working for them until his gardening leave is done and then he'll join McLaren. In the meantime, he's put together a team that will build Honda a current spec car that they'll use for testing at Suzuka, since they're not bound by any testing rules.
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I'm somewhat doubtful of the designing a car for them bit, but if nothing else, I suppose he has a great deal of knowledge about the current Renault engine (and probably a bit about the upcoming one) that would be of use to Honda.
The rumor would explain somewhat his sudden departure from Renault and his failure to turn up anywhere else.