2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Fluido wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 21:30
It seems Lewis is simply not fast enough any more, he is missing this last two tenths that make a difference.

Does anyone think he will return to his old form?
I think at this age he needs a car that is fast and predictable that is easier to trust to compete with the young guys. He still knows how to drive fast.

What he doesnt have is risk appetite and bravery. No matter how much he wants to train or how strong or fit he thinks he is, at 40 you simply wont be as brave as in your 20s.
What Max did today was bravery on top of his skill. That ship has sailed for Lewis, Alonso and Hulkenberg. It just wont happen. Might as well ask those 35+ to do a back flip off the car. Theyre gonna hesitate. Aint gonna happen at 40+. :lol:
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Is there any advantage or disadvantage for Ferrari in a wet race tomorrow if they are indeed running the car higher?

I’m not familiar with the effect of ground clearance in the rain so forgive a naive question!

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Nowadays not much difference between setup for wet or dry. I think a good dry setup works best in the wet. The wet tyres should give enough rideheight increase. In Melbourne the car was understeering too much when they setup for rain.
If it's dry, I think Lewis can try the hard tyre to start and then bide his time until the front runners pit, then run then switch to a new medium.
The fastest strategy is a one stop. But it makes no sense do what the others are doing if you are in 8th place.
Charles could stay on the front running strategy, a medium > Hard.
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Mansell89 wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 00:52
Is there any advantage or disadvantage for Ferrari in a wet race tomorrow if they are indeed running the car higher?

I’m not familiar with the effect of ground clearance in the rain so forgive a naive question!
Ferrari is usually worse in mixed conditions. Hopefully the race will be on dry tyres.

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Mansell89 wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 00:52
Is there any advantage or disadvantage for Ferrari in a wet race tomorrow if they are indeed running the car higher?

I’m not familiar with the effect of ground clearance in the rain so forgive a naive question!
Lewis is one of the best wet weather drivers but the Ferrari doesnt seem to be a car that is good in wet/mixed conditions so if it rains i dont expect Ferrari to be troubling the other top 3 and i expect Mclaren to be the best of the top 4

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Mansell89 wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 00:52
Is there any advantage or disadvantage for Ferrari in a wet race tomorrow if they are indeed running the car higher?

I’m not familiar with the effect of ground clearance in the rain so forgive a naive question!
Leclerc said with the way their car behaves and the direction they went for (not sure if he meant they as in the team or they as in his side), he doesn't want rain.

And of course he'd never say it out loud but we all know Ferrari is strategically poor in the wet, so that's another reason to avoid it... :lol:

Last forecast I saw (from a reliable source) was scattered light showers for the first half of the race.

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f1316 wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 22:58
Silent Storm wrote:
05 Apr 2025, 17:44
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05 Apr 2025, 17:30


Red Bull are second force for sure imo. The free practice runs were done with a super low engine mode.
If George and both McLaren's hadn't messed up their final lap they would have been top 3.

Charles did a perfect lap squeezing everything out of that Ferrari and George didn't improve on his second lap thanks to his mistake early on and yet their laptimes are so close.
George did two laps that didn’t seem his best - and probably should have been ahead of Charles - but Lando was very clear that he got the most out of the car. There were four runs between the two McLaren cars in Q3 and so I think if those were all littered with mistakes then that’s still the level of the car (if it’s that hard to string a lap together) but that doesn’t actually seem to be the case, based on Lando’s comments.
Lando was up after the first two sectors. He got outbraked by Max af the chicane and failed to turn on the drs on time on his run to the line. Thats where he lost the pole basically. Failed to close the lap out.

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Ferrari slower than Mercedes for sure. This race did not allow any overtaking and the tyres have zero deg.
The car is okay, but only good enough for P5 and P6. Qualifying error by Russel put Leclerc in P4, and Traffic also held Russel back from passing Charles in the race. Upgrades needed!
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The importance of qualifying.

Mercedes are faster but Charles qualified ahead and stayed there because it’s Suzuka. Kimi was on leader pace.

Not even close to McL and Red Bull. Next week is basically the season.
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seeing charles and lewis take all the Pickup available on track made me laugh :D learnt there lesson i guess. good effort from Charles.. Lewis was bit disapointed himself, think his balance was off on medium? he struggled a lot there

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Fakepivot wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:32
seeing charles and lewis take all the Pickup available on track made me laugh :D learnt there lesson i guess. good effort from Charles.. Lewis was bit disapointed himself, think his balance was off on medium? he struggled a lot there
Both Ferraris just didnt have the pace to do anything meaningful and not surprising considering they said they had to raise their ride height more than they wanted to here. Adami said over the radio they overbalanced the car protecting the front tires post race

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Damn there will be a lot of boring races this year. If you are behind someone it's impossible to overtake. Lewis got past Hadjar at least, but Antonelli left him for dead in the second stint. Charles just benefited from his good quali and stayed ahead of george, after being under immense pressure in the first stint. The race pace overall wasn't too bad, but again track position is king.

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Looking at the live timer S1 was a disaster.

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Fakepivot wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:32
seeing charles and lewis take all the Pickup available on track made me laugh :D learnt there lesson i guess. good effort from Charles.. Lewis was bit disappointed himself, think his balance was off on medium? he struggled a lot there
Medium seemed the weaker tyre. Hard more robust and had similar pace this race. Lewis strategy in hindsight wasn't the best. Not bad, but the Medium hard would have been better.
Kimi's pace made Lewis look like he was falling back, but it was really Kimi gaining on Russel, and Russel gaining on Charles but at a slower rate.
Charles was dropped by Mclaren and Max like a bad habit. Ferrari will be fighting for 2nd at best with Mercedes.
And with Tsunoda onboard for RB, probably fighting for 4th. :cry:
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Autobahn303 wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:40
Looking at the live timer S1 was a disaster.
Lacking downforce because of the suboptimal ride height I guess.