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[Formula None]

1 track thinking is not healthy.

If the winning car has it, copy it with no second thoughts. Don't think about it just copy it, you wont regret it.

Scarbs gets it right more often than most of us here, including you ringo. You have no connection to the sport beyond the internet. People's interest in what he has to say doesn't equate to faith, and simply making counterpoints does not equate to critical thinking.

[ringo]

Until we see the "octopus" exhaust and where in the regulations it falls afoul, it's just a fairytale.

Whitmarsh spoke about reliability, he didn't mention breaching regulations, if i remember.

If there is a breach, i will wholeheartedly agree octopus and all. I just want to see where it is.

You guys should loosen up and stop with "OMG OMG celebrity insider!!!!" thing.
It's looking pathetic.
You got a doubt or need a clarification voice it, simple.

[Jimi_Hendrix_1967]

Until we see the "octopus" exhaust and where in the regulations it falls afoul, it's just a fairytale.

Whitmarsh spoke about reliability, he didn't mention breaching regulations, if i remember.

If there is a breach, i will wholeheartedly agree octopus and all. I just want to see where it is.

You guys should loosen up and stop with "OMG OMG celebrity insider!!!!" thing.
It's looking pathetic.
You got a doubt or need a clarification voice it, simple.

If I were you, id loosen up on anything Whitmarsh says, and start giving Scarbs some credit. His pre-test season summary was pretty much on the mark.

[raymondu999]

Not to mention Scarbs' renditions of what he thought most teams would converge on in terms of design, was practically identical to a launch-spec RB7

[OO7]

floor is probably molded with chanels in it. I don't think it's blowing through the step plane; just pointing gas at strategic points.

I've just visited Scarbs' website and seen the update on EBDs. The new regulations, which basically mandate continuous body work out to 45cm either side of the cars centreline, prevent the exhaust exiting through the step, so I was wrong about that.
If the exhaust system was considered to be part of the engine and not the bodywork, it may have been possible, but because the exhaust has been defined as being part of the bodywork, irrespective of where this has been stated (under the 'engine' heading), this technique is not valid.

[ringo]

Well that's a guess as to what the octopus may look like, i didn't say it is fact.
I don't believe in the octopus exhaust, but if it exists it may or may not look like that.

In that drawing the exhaust is not attached to the floor, hence the distinction between yellow and grey. The floor cavity is simply aligned with the exhausts, and the cavity does not go breach the step plane. It only breaks the step plane in the outer 5cm.
Nothing in the regulations about that being wrong. And i don't care for it really, just saying it could be like this, or any thing that comes to the imagination that can pass the regs.


The focus should be on explaining what is in breach and why the other teams had a problem with it.

If anything it's down to # of openings, or poor reliability why Mclaren changed directions.

i posted this then removed it in the fee thread. At the time we weren't sure where the slit was, but it guess it can work in conjunction with the L side pods. Brawn may have been reffering to something like this.
Take with a pinch of salt. It's turned the wrong way and all. but just some forum fodder.

[murtoidf1]

The latest from Scarbs.


"I'm hearing mutterings in the Melbourne pitlane that McLarens exhaust has caught the attention of the FIA scrutineers. It seems to be the same question of what is exhaust, what is bodywork, as the materials allowed are different."

[myoozikk]

from Scarb's blog...

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/

[Lurk]

Is that me or McLaren have a lot of space to reduce their sidepods?

[ianwit]

Read Scarbs blog you'll find out what fills that space.

[kalinka]

Is that me or McLaren have a lot of space to reduce their sidepods?

+1, and wow! I can't eve figure out a single exhaust piecea t all. Where are all those pipes that should be there. If they're not connected yet, then where the hell they should be connected

EDIT : Read the blog about it, but still confused. Great packaging at least.

[bonjon1979]

They may be able to reduce their sidepods but that doesn't help with the concept of their car. They're trying to guide clean air over the top of their sidepod down to the rear of the car rather than around the sides. - if they shrunk the width of the sidepods they'd disrupt flow through the 'U' shaped channel down to the diffuser.

Exhausts aren't attached yet that's why you can't see them.

[thestig84]

Kalinka It should be apparent what is going on but I would advise you to read scarbs blog linked.

Great pic and thanks for analysis scarbs. I cant see that the starter motor hole is rounded though? It looks more rectangle to me?

[Lurk]

Kalinka, I know the exhausts are missing. But they don't take so much place.


Thanks bonjon1979, it is the kind of answer I was waiting.

[kalinka]

Exhausts aren't attached yet that's why you can't see them.

OK, I get that, but where are the attach points then ? I can imagine they're facing downwards on that grey area and we can't see them from that angle, but then why they have so much heat shielding so high up AND so low ? They can't have two exhaust exits on one side ( one low one high ) ?